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Gibbo
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Re: Chinese Democracy" multi track guitar change with a more live/appetite

Gibbo wrote:

A fella on MYGNR done this sounds Killer id love the whole album like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDYuKrrr5UQ&feature=plcp

Me_Wise_Magic
 Rep: 70 

Re: Chinese Democracy" multi track guitar change with a more live/appetite

This guy did a great job! big_smile Still love finck guitar work on it though.

Axlin16
 Rep: 768 

Re: Chinese Democracy" multi track guitar change with a more live/appetite

Axlin16 wrote:

I'm not nuts about it. Definitely interesting.

I just don't hear that sound as "this" band. Whether it's 2001-02, 2006-07, or the current 2009+

I really don't even hear it as 1991-93.


The reason that AFD sound worked so well was because this was a raw, street gang of a band. They basically pulled three junkies together, a punk drunk, and a fucking lunatic just waiting to be institutionalized for life... and they recorded an album.

That sound works for that band. This sound for this band just comes across as incomplete.


As for the cover itself -- damn good job.

DCK
 Rep: 207 

Re: Chinese Democracy" multi track guitar change with a more live/appetite

DCK wrote:
Axlin12 wrote:

I'm not nuts about it. Definitely interesting.

I just don't hear that sound as "this" band. Whether it's 2001-02, 2006-07, or the current 2009+

I really don't even hear it as 1991-93.


The reason that AFD sound worked so well was because this was a raw, street gang of a band. They basically pulled three junkies together, a punk drunk, and a fucking lunatic just waiting to be institutionalized for life... and they recorded an album.

That sound works for that band. This sound for this band just comes across as incomplete.


As for the cover itself -- damn good job.

Fully agree. Why try to be something their not? The cover is a good job, but there's no need to hunt for 1987. AFD worked so well for the reasons Axlin listed. Now they need to pull other strings.

Bono
 Rep: 386 

Re: Chinese Democracy" multi track guitar change with a more live/appetite

Bono wrote:

I think the song would sound better if it was just guitars drums and bass. That's my biggest gripe with CD. way too over produced and forced way too hard to be epic. TWAT is a prime example. It's trying way too hard to be epic. But then again I just say that to get attention.

As for this mix it's cool and I think would sound awesome if professionally done this way. It's more organic, something the entire album is lacking.

Gibbo
 Rep: 191 

Re: Chinese Democracy" multi track guitar change with a more live/appetite

Gibbo wrote:
Bono wrote:

I think the song would sound better if it was just guitars drums and bass. That's my biggest gripe with CD. way too over produced and forced way too hard to be epic. TWAT is a prime example. It's trying way too hard to be epic. But then again I just say that to get attention.

As for this mix it's cool and I think would sound awesome if professionally done this way. It's more organic, something the entire album is lacking.

I agree mate thats why am liking this you can actually here the guitars for ones 22

Axlin16
 Rep: 768 

Re: Chinese Democracy" multi track guitar change with a more live/appetite

Axlin16 wrote:
Bono wrote:

I think the song would sound better if it was just guitars drums and bass. That's my biggest gripe with CD. way too over produced and forced way too hard to be epic. TWAT is a prime example. It's trying way too hard to be epic. But then again I just say that to get attention.

As for this mix it's cool and I think would sound awesome if professionally done this way. It's more organic, something the entire album is lacking.


Not true at all. TWAT is an epic song, that needed padding to add to it's natural grandiosity. "Trying too hard to be epic" applies to a song like Street of Dreams that was actually a guitar-song in it's inception then suddenly was FORCED to be more grand for whatever reason.

TWAT IS an epic song. Just because all of the fuckin' guitar jocks around here want more guitar in it for their own nut, has nothing to do with the actual song, and what it needs or doesn't need. It has one of Robin & Bucket's best works under the GN'R name in it. What more does it need guitar-wise? Jeff fuckin' Beck and Slash to show up as well. No no no, it doesn't need that. When I remixed the song, for shits n' giggles I stripped the keys and overproduction out if it and made it about the guitars -- it was bland. It sounded like an unfinished demo.

As for CD needing to be stripped down, unlike TWAT, CD at it's core is a straight-forward hard rock song. It CAN have that stripped down nature. Maybe if the 1991 GN'R had recorded it, it would work that way. Certainly not the 1987 GN'R.

TWAT on the other hand has EXACTLY what it NEEDS. Nothing less. If anything it needs more, and i'm nitpicking, the song could use a tad more melody in places. It takes a bit to get going for a song of it's type.

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