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smoke
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Re: Boardwalk Empire

smoke wrote:

I'm in the same boat as Axlin- it's still barely got me watching <at some point> every week, but killing off Jimmy was stupid and gratuitous, and what's left is really paint by numbers.

The addition of the crazy emotionless mob guy who kills at the slightest hint of being slighted is fun, but also pretty pat.

Neemo
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Re: Boardwalk Empire

Neemo wrote:

I dunno what to think this season

Jimmy's mom is fucked

I know they are supposed to start focusing on the rise of lucky luciano and al capone, as well as Nucky's fall....let's not forget this is loosely based on some real history

Axlin16
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Re: Boardwalk Empire

Axlin16 wrote:

You know that Jimmy/Jimmy's mom angle was kinda psychologically interesting to me.


I mean she supposedly gave birth to him at like 14, and it was Dabney Coleman's kid. He was an old perv. So then she has a big thing with not trusting men. She was basically set up with him, for Nucky to appease him. Unless my series knowledge is wrong.

She then develops a trust bond with Jimmy, and they weren't that close in age. Now I could cite some weird ass studies, but that was one of the reasons I hated Jimmy getting killed.

Re-exploring that taboo subject and how they got there, how she felt complete with him, but it totally fucked Jimmy up was something I thought would give them great writing material to "go there" and see what made Jimmy -- Jimmy.


But they were all too pussy. Apparently they wanted to get rid of something actually interesting and psychologically insane, so they could literally come up with another "overtly ginny-type" character to move the show along.


Huh?

polluxlm
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Re: Boardwalk Empire

polluxlm wrote:

This show is finished. The writers have lost the plot completely. They should walk the talk so to speak and focus on prohibition, not make a show about very minute detail of a bunch of semi interesting characters lives. Yeah, you can flesh out characters, but a smart writer knows how to make it part of the plot and not the plot itself.

It used to have moments. Now it feels like a daily special variant of "Margaret sleeps with murderer of her husband, becomes a christian, sleeps with another dude" and "Nucky doesn't know if he's a schoolboy in love or a stone cold psychopath".

Axlin16
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Re: Boardwalk Empire

Axlin16 wrote:
polluxlm wrote:

This show is finished. The writers have lost the plot completely. They should walk the talk so to speak and focus on prohibition, not make a show about very minute detail of a bunch of semi interesting characters lives. Yeah, you can flesh out characters, but a smart writer knows how to make it part of the plot and not the plot itself.

It used to have moments. Now it feels like a daily special variant of "Margaret sleeps with murderer of her husband, becomes a christian, sleeps with another dude" and "Nucky doesn't know if he's a schoolboy in love or a stone cold psychopath".


Wasn't that pretty much 6 years of The Sopranos? 16

polluxlm
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Re: Boardwalk Empire

polluxlm wrote:

You may be right. Gandolfini can make taking a shit interesting though.

Axlin16
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Re: Boardwalk Empire

Axlin16 wrote:

And honestly I think Buscemi can too. But this year his role has been WAY scaled back in this season. The cast is way too fuckin' FAT. There's too many characters and too many side stories. I think I complained of this in Season 1, that it would bury the show as it went on.


Bottom line though is Buscemi is the heart and soul of the show. But this season, because the writers have no clue what the fuck they are doing, they have made him so brutal and ruthless without remorse, that he no longer has any vunerability. You can't relate to Nucky at all. Problem is -- he's the MOST interesting character on the show. If you can't reach him emotionally as a viewer, you don't care about him. If you don't care about him, you don't care about watching the show.

These are major issues.

Sopranos relied on Gandolfini's charmisma. Deadwood -- McShane's, rather than Olyphants. Newsroom relies on Jeff Daniels. Let Boardwalk rely on Buscemi and you'll do fine, but instead they're so fucking worried about everything else BUT that.

And that "Nucky with another whore" story is completely BORING.

Re: Boardwalk Empire

johndivney wrote:
Neemo wrote:

I know they are supposed to start focusing on the rise of lucky luciano and al capone, as well as Nucky's fall....let's not forget this is loosely based on some real history

this is p much why i'm interested in it, as a dramatization of the origins of the mob. i'm a sucker for mob history so i'm glad they've advanced the story forward this yr regarding this stuff.

Axlin16
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Re: Boardwalk Empire

Axlin16 wrote:

Based on that, I will say I have completely enjoyed EVERYTIME Al Capone is on screen. The actor playing him, although lifiting DeNiro in Untouchables, is fantastic in the role. Seems to know it through and through, and I find myself wanting to see Al every single episode.


THAT is good writing. Look at Al. You hate his guts, and then he has that little moment with his deaf kid. Tenderness at it's highest. That is what Nucky is completely missing.

polluxlm
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Re: Boardwalk Empire

polluxlm wrote:

Yeah, there's some good characters. Capone, Luciano, Lansky, Rothstein, Masseria, That guy that played Butchie on the Sopranos. Even Gyp Rosetti is entertaining though it's so obvious he's there just to be killed off.

But somehow they prefer spending time doing some Owen Wilson drama plots with the lesser characters.

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