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Gibbo
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Gibbo wrote:

whats the best Terminator blurays to get im after 1 to 4 http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_1?rh= … 1342955779

Me_Wise_Magic
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I got T2 Skynet Edition on Blu Ray for only Five bucks at Target one day! It was a steal! Love that movie!

RussTCB
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Me_Wise_Magic
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T3 did suck and Salvation has it's flaws but it is a much more enjoyable film than 3 and it didn't feel forced.

Gibbo
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Gibbo wrote:

Cool thanks fellas

Gibbo
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Gibbo wrote:

Is there going to be a terminator 6 am not up with all this stuff

Smoking Guns
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Smoking Guns wrote:

T2 is an all time great.

Axlin16
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Axlin16 wrote:

In all honesty, I don't really acknowledge T3 & T4 as canon with the original story.

I was actually a fan of The Sarah Connor Chronicles TV series, and the way I see it is T1, T2, TSCC, is the timeline. I guess in someways you could connect TSCC with T4, and i'm fine with that.

I agree with Me Wise that T4 was not perfect, but a big improvement over T3. I liked that T4 had potential, but I think the story just wasn't there. It had a GREAT CAST to be perfectly honest. Sam Worthington, Christian Bale, Moon Bloodgood (total beauty), Michael Ironside, Bryce Dallas Howard, Anton Yelchin... all kinds of great talent there.

It just didn't have a story. There was no actual material there. I've been better scripted episodes of the TV show than T4.


But T3 was just inexcusable. Borderline pathetic. Is it a bad film? No... if you've never ever seen T2. T3 was the "Highlander III: The Final Dimension" moment of the Terminator franchise. A film that was a total retread in everyway of a previous film. In Highlander III's case, it retold into an almost remake-fashion the first film.

T3 in some ways was worse. It followed up T2, directly, with a total ripoff sequel. Half as interesting, half as executed, half as memorable.

There was tons of money, hype, love, anticipation and um.... AHNOLD! He was wasted in a film that he's iconic for.

It was literally a waste of time making that movie.


T4 on the other hand could've been a Batman Begins-styled reboot, but instead spend too much time trying to be a sequel like Friday The 13th 2009 to really be a new thing and ultimately it confused the film and bogged it down. Amanda Righetti's hotness couldn't save F13 and Bloodgood's couldn't save T4.

It didn't help that Bale (who's a great actor) spent the entire film phoning in his entire performance screaming for no real reason, both on camera and off.


I just would've handled the entire situation differently. If the studio wanted a sequel/reboot, I would've taken a different. I would've begged Linda Hamilton to return, and threw her more money than Bale to do it. If she passed, I would've called Lena Headey to reprise Sarah Connor in a feature film, and made T4 canon with the TV series, ala Highlander: Endgame/Star Trek: Generations.

The film would've progressed the Connor's as the world ended, Skynet became self-aware, and the world fell apart and became overrun with machines. How would they survive? The people they would meet. Loves lost, hope lost. It would've played in a real Nolan-fashion.

The film would've then ended with the actual war beginning, more than likely Sarah Connor being dead, John Connor "rising to be a leader", and trusting a Terminator (preferably a CGI-enhanced cameo by the actual Arnold) as a gimmick at the end.

I don't know if it would've worked, but I would've tried it. Then set up the next film to be a war film, with possibly a third acting as a finale. It would've been a cross between reboot/sequel.


But anyways... something different was needed. T4 (I called very good when it came out here on Evo), but as time has went on... it's 'okay-better than T3' is about the best I can say.

The franchise needs Jim Cameron.

Axlin16
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Axlin16 wrote:
gibbo wrote:

Is there going to be a terminator 6 am not up with all this stuff

There hasn't even been a Terminator 5 yet, lol. 16

But yeah there's supposed to be a T5 in the making, but I think alot of that talk was before T4 opened modestly. Originally McG was being entrusted to take on the franchise and Bale was going to be the new star, but after T4 was modestly received and didn't hit as well as expected despite the huge marketing push, I assume T5 is up in the air.

An early idea by McG was to bring back Robert Patrick as the designer of the Terminators, specifically the T-1000 to work him back into the franchise. An early pitch was a war film dealing with an entire army of T-1000's.

But Bale I thought expressed regret at doing T4 short of a paycheck and didn't really seem interested in returning for T4. Which then throws the story into whack and the thought of "do we continue going with Salvation's story, or without Bale, do we just reboot it? Or with Arnold available, do we just bring back Arnold and do a traditional Terminator sequel?"

Then the company that made T4... files for bankruptcy putting all future Terminator films on hold until someone can secure the rights and the future of the series.

The plan though is reboot it -- AGAIN. With Arnold in a supporting role, and a younger actor as the star. Whether that's Bale, Worthington, or someone entirely new remains to be seen. The plan is for a T5 & a T6, both nothing has moved on that front since last year.

Smoking Guns wrote:

T2 is an all time great.

Absolutely. Until The Dark Knight, I thought T2 was the best action film ever made. Now I feel TDK is the best.

Rarely are action movies that good, that big, and yet so amazingly acted, executed and written.

Gibbo
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Gibbo wrote:

Have any of these T2 editions got the YCBM music video on it

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