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Re: Marilyn Manson and Twiggy Ramirez Have Reunited
From Marilyn Manson's official MySpace....
Marilyn Manson and Twiggy Ramirez Have Reunited.
The duo that started it all, are back together to finish where they left off. The two who co-wrote Antichrist Superstar, Mechanical Animals, and Holywood will be sharing the stage once again.
Joining Manson and Twiggy onstage for the U.S. leg of the Rape of the World Tour will be Chris Vrenna, Rob Holliday, and Ginger Fish. Tim Skold has amicably split with Manson, but future collaborations aren't being ruled out between the two.
Expectations for the upcoming tour are best described by quoting one of Manson's most infamous lyrics, "Everyone will suffer now". Looks like the shit is gonna hit the FANS.
Tour dates are also on the MySpace page http://www.myspace.com/marilynmanson
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Re: Marilyn Manson and Twiggy Ramirez Have Reunited
I was never thrilled with Jeordie in NIN, so I guess it's good he's gone back to the gig that is really his, although I know very little of Manson.
Vrenna is an all star of that side of rock. He was really, as far as I know, Reznor's number 2 for years, then he worked with Smashing Pumpkins... do I remember Axl trying to get him on board with GN'R? If that;s correct, I really wish he was the man behind programming instead of Pitman.
Re: Marilyn Manson and Twiggy Ramirez Have Reunited
Too awesome.
I saw Jeordie (Twiggy) with NIN last year, he wasn't half bad. I had more prejudice on Aaron North, as he'd replaced the lead guitarist of the band. Then again, I opted against seeing Manson a few days before Christmas, partially because I was seriously underwhelmed with his post-Twiggy albums. Never cared for Tim Skold, nor the music he wrote.
When considering the return of Twiggy against the overall disappointing sales of Eat Me Drink Me, Manson seems to be coming to terms with the fact that musically, his best times were in '96-'00. While he's naturally not the shocker he once was anymore, but I would like to see a new album coming out of this collaboration. Anything with Twiggy is better than marketing an album with Lolita-references. That joke's getting old.
Re: Marilyn Manson and Twiggy Ramirez Have Reunited
This just in, courtesy Rolling Stone....
Marilyn Manson Says Led Zeppelin Is Responsible For Reunion With Twiggy
Taking a page from the Van Halen playbook, it was announced yesterday that Marilyn Manson and longtime collaborator guitarist Twiggy Ramirez would reunite for Manson's Eat Me, Drink Me tour. Rock Daily talked to Manson hours after the announcement, and he shared the story behind their reunion. Though the two had already re-connected during a chance meeting on the streets of Los Angeles, it was Manson witnessing another reunion that inspired him to invite Twiggy back. 'The turning point for me was when I went to see Led Zeppelin's reunion show, and I saw Jimmy Page and Robert Plant look at each other for a moment, and they probably said, '˜Holy shit, we wrote '˜Stairway To Heaven.'' I wanted that look again,' Manson explains. 'I want to look at Twiggy and go '˜Holy shit, we wrote '˜The Beautiful People.' I called him and I said '˜Let's go do this.'' Plus, the duo had some unfinished business. 'We started music together because we wanted to bring about the apocalypse, and we realized we didn't finish,' Manson says. 'The world could suffer much more if we were together again, and we really wanted to bring back the suffering.'
With Twiggy back in the fold after departing over creative differences after 2000's Holy Wood, how would this effect Manson's 'Rape of the World' tour, set to launch in a week? 'We're still gonna play some new songs,' says Manson, 'but I think we're excited to play some stuff that we haven't done in a long time. I don't think it ever felt as right without him.'
While Manson is eager to return to working on his film Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Carroll, he promises that his reunion with Twiggy will eventually result in a new album. 'The concept originally of he and I getting back together was '˜Let's write some music together,' ' says Manson. 'But life's too short, and this has to happen now because we couldn't stand not being on stage with each other, and wouldn't want to wait until we made another record to tour. So this tour will spawn another record, one hundred percent.'
Re: Marilyn Manson and Twiggy Ramirez Have Reunited
There's a long and rambling interview over at The Hierophant, in which Manson talks Twiggy, Tim Skold and Chris Vrenna - for starters. Trent Reznor gets his share of bickering and Axl gets the mandatory namedrop.
Recommended for anyone interested in Manson and/or Twiggy, or the various people associated to the band.
I went downstairs [at The Roosevelt Hotel] to meet Jonathan Shaw. [...] I sit down and the first person that walks into the room was Twiggy. It was really strange - a complete coincidence out of nowhere. I would never go to this bar that's in this hotel unless I was staying at the hotel - although I normally don't go out anyway.
So we sat down and I noticed he looked a little bit sad. We were both almost in tears seeing each other again. We're like twin brothers in some strange ways, although I prefer not to be blamed for certain aspects of his facial features. He wouldn't want to get blamed for not having as big of a penis as he does, although mine has preserved its integrity, we'll just say. In our five minute conversation, he had told me he had gone through a really hard relationship breakup very similar to mine. I could see it in his face - he's like my little brother, so I knew.
[...] The conversation didn't go any further than, 'Hey, when you get back into town in six weeks, we should hang out. Let's get together.' I asked him, 'How was it with my old pal Trent?' I think he best described it as 'A vacuum of happiness.' I guess he found out he wasn't in the band anymore when he read it in the press. He did have a strange comment for me 'Never in your craziest days of ever doing anything' - and I've never been an extreme dick in any way to Twiggy because I've never needed to. We never had a falling out or anything like that. I've had a reputation of not being the most polite gentleman in the past - that's putting it lightly. 'Never in your worst days could you have made my life as uncomfortable and miserable as it was this last year.' The good news is it's over.
During his time in Marilyn Manson, Tim Skold has extended his role in the band from producer to almost the sole music composer on your last record. Taking this trend into account, few fans would have foreseen his abrupt exit at the end of the 2007 tour. Please tell us about the split and what this might mean for your future direction in music.
I wouldn't consider it a split in the sense you can compare it to any previous band relationships, Tim became a very important fixture in Marilyn Manson with The Golden Age of Grotesque and he was a very important person for me in making Eat Me, Drink Me. I don't know how he feels about me as a person, I know that the passion in the music making was there, I can hear it. I wasn't so vulnerable that I would let someone do whatever they want. There should be no misconception that I just said '˜ok I'm going to sing and you can do what you want Tim'˜, it wasn't like that. He got me inspired and we wanted to do something different and I like working with him, so there is no problem with me and him. He may end up hating my guts but that's not what I want, this is only about me and Twiggy. I just know that those two guys, I know there's too much tension and history there, I don't know, I can just imagine. I'm not afraid to feel selfish because I'm saying it's the right thing for right now. I know it might of made more sense for me and Twiggy to get together to make a new record and then that could be what happens, but this is the record that Tim wrote.
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And Chris, heaven forbid NIN fans don't want to believe it, but Chris is responsible for a lot of what people like about the sonic sound of NIN, the drum sounds, the sample and such. He did a lot of the work and he didn't get the creative credit. Chris is very talented as a drummer but also the keyboard player; because he started out as a keyboard player.
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So I hate people that think Chris is a stand in, for a lot of reasons because Chris doesn't reinterpret the parts, he plays them exactly how they where on the album, but he plays them in a more difficult way but it actually to me it sounds more live, like a live band and it sounds more like the record. What people don't know is that Chris was involved in a lot of those keyboards, there's a lot of stuff that Chris did keyboard wise on Antichrist Superstar, on Portrait Of An American Family. I met Chris same day I met Trent and I helped Chris throw up into a beer can, which I don't even know how you do that, on our Way to see U2. The first time I was in LA, I met Axl Rose and mentioned something about Charles Manson songs that he had never heard of and then he did that Charles Manson cover a year later.
[A rather bizarre Axl namedrop there to begin with, but that's Mr Warner for you.]
I've known Chris the whole way and I don't know if people get it enough from reading my autobiography, or if you didn't read it then your listening to this. Chris was the one who ended up sticking by me when there was a complete melt down during Antichrist Superstar, and Chris recorded every single vocal of mine on Antichrist Superstar, and that's why I sometimes get pissed, and not for my ego, but for the fact Chris doesn't get credit and people think oh well Trent is the guy behind everything on that record, I feel that Chris deserves some credit for it.
Re: Marilyn Manson and Twiggy Ramirez Have Reunited
I met Axl Rose and mentioned something about Charles Manson songs that he had never heard of and then he did that Charles Manson cover a year later.
For those that don't know...
SF: Why do you think it's become so trendy for musicians to make references to Charles Manson in their music
MM: That pisses me off. Axl Rose was in a hellstorm because he recorded a Manson song, and I'll tell you how he got that idea in a minute. Meanwhile Trent was living at the Sharon Tate house, so I end up looking like I'm this Marilyn Manson guy that's riding Trent Reznor's wagon, which is kind of funny. But I never got a chip on my shoulder. I never minded because otherwise I would never have gotten to record there and sleep there and get freaked out by the ghosts there.
SF: That's a good attitude. Why don't you do another line?
MM: Okay, but this is the last one (sucking sounds). So what happened with Guns N' Roses was that Trent took me to a U2 concert one night and backstage I met Axl Rose. He was very neurotic and was telling me about his psychological problems, his split personalities, and I felt like "This guy's a total fucking flake." Being that I'm the overzealous type, I started telling him about my band anyway. And I said "You know we do this song 'My Monkey' and it's an adaption of a Charles Manson song off his album Lie."
And he's like "I never heard of that before."
I told him "You should check out the album, it's cool." And lo and behold six months later Guns N' Roses put out the Spaghetti Incident? and Axl Rose covers "Look At Your Game, Girl" from the Lie album.
Then he started getting all that heat from Sharon Tate's sister and everybody.
