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buzzsaw
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Re: Guns N' Roses ban fans from wearing Slash t-shirts to their UK gigs

buzzsaw wrote:

I know some people here love wrestling, but it's a joke.  You're essentially comparing Axl Rose to something fake and scripted...

Ok, maybe you're on to something.

jonesy
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Re: Guns N' Roses ban fans from wearing Slash t-shirts to their UK gigs

jonesy wrote:

I never knew what a Heel was in that sense till I read AxlIn's post.

Intercourse
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Re: Guns N' Roses ban fans from wearing Slash t-shirts to their UK gigs

Intercourse wrote:

I think Axl is too sensitive to play the heel.
He has tried to muzzle so many journalists down the years and has phoned up writers of small time articles to castigate them.
I don't think the man has a plan of any description. His managerial situation shows me that the only 'plan' is:
- not to be told to reunite
- not to be told when to go on stage
- and not to be told to get music out there

he is obviously willing to run a slightly shabby crew in return for having nobody to answer to ever.

Underneath it all Axl seems like a sweet, caring and fanatically loyal friend.
Its the collision of both extremes that make him so interesting but also sometimes the man we love to hate.

Axlin16
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Re: Guns N' Roses ban fans from wearing Slash t-shirts to their UK gigs

Axlin16 wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

I know some people here love wrestling, but it's a joke.  You're essentially comparing Axl Rose to something fake and scripted...

Ok, maybe you're on to something.

See what I mean? You think it's wild until you think about it.


Axl is a cosmic joke at this point. He's a parody of himself and his own notorious ego. He was wearing 'King Dick' shirts in 2006 and making fun of his own legend.

Just look at today's story of Axl's stolen jewelry. Yahoo comments, and elsewhere, was page after page of "Karma is a bitch", "Couldn't happen to a better Axhole", "Axl's been stealing from his fans for years".

Now Axl is an asshole. Yet people steal trip over themselves to run and read the story and comment that Axl's an asshole.

People go out of their way to intentionally look up NEW Guns performances, just to slag them and say "needs more Slash".

If Axl was truely over, no one would care. No one would even bother to watch his videos. He'd be Baz-less Skid Row in the present.

They love to hate the guy, and he plays the whole thing up like he somehow gets it and you don't. The dude has turned totally into a campy, WWE-style character.


Come on! Other than the Million Dollar Man, what "20 fuckin' years ago" glam metal-er travels around Paris with his entourage and carries $200 fuckin' G's worth of jewelry?!?!?!

The dude oozes arrogance at this point, and is convinced he's righteous. I love the guy...

But I know what his game is.

Oh and one more thing, I just use wrestling as an example. But all i'm really saying is -- "there's Axl Rose the 'Character'", and there's the sweet loving "Axl Rose the friend that lives in Malibu", and they are two entirely different things, even to Axl.

Intercourse wrote:

I think Axl is too sensitive to play the heel.
He has tried to muzzle so many journalists down the years and has phoned up writers of small time articles to castigate them.
I don't think the man has a plan of any description. His managerial situation shows me that the only 'plan' is:
- not to be told to reunite
- not to be told when to go on stage
- and not to be told to get music out there

he is obviously willing to run a slightly shabby crew in return for having nobody to answer to ever.

Underneath it all Axl seems like a sweet, caring and fanatically loyal friend.
Its the collision of both extremes that make him so interesting but also sometimes the man we love to hate.

This is more realistic and more likely. But I think part of my theory holds some weight too.


Realize his entourage lets him walk around and live life extravagently to a point that he travels with $200,000 bucks worth of jewelry. Travels in private jets seperately. Arrives seperate from the band and when he fuckin' wants too. Has a crew that goes around the world that's top of the line travel.

And it's 2012. The Lebeis clan didn't tell him he was a star 20 years ago. The guy lives and acts like 1991 is frozen and time, and he's trying to change the timeline that the top-hatted one never existed.

And he's so slick in his mind... none of us are wise.


That's intelligent, but is either beyond delusional, or Axl is playing his massive ass joke on us and basically plays up his media ego to the fans and the rest of the world.


jmho

-D-
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Re: Guns N' Roses ban fans from wearing Slash t-shirts to their UK gigs

-D- wrote:

Good point Axlin

I think the sweet cool friendly guy is Bill Bailey and THEN there is Axl Rose.

like T.O. an Terrell Owens etc

Intercourse
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Re: Guns N' Roses ban fans from wearing Slash t-shirts to their UK gigs

Intercourse wrote:

Wrestling is the perfect model to choose and like you said Axlin,if you think this one over and it makes sense.

Wrestling is spectacle and entertainment with big personalities and huge feuds..as is Rock N Roll. Dave Lee Roth is his hey day even looked like a wrestler on stage...all spandex, blonde hair and big jumps.

Its a fucking EXCELLENT theory Axlin, a real one to consider. Maybe he feels creatively weak so hams up the 'badass on tour' routine to stay relevant until he finds his mojo again?

Like you say, the dude is out there behaving like Kanye West yet his day in the sun has long since passed in terms of being king of the charts BUT people all over the world follow the guy's antics with morbid fascination.

I don't believe Axl enjoys being King Dick, I think he's stuck with it and may now have decided that if that's what people want, well that's what they'll get.

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