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slashsfro
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Re: The Wrestling thread

slashsfro wrote:
AtariLegend wrote:

Punk vs Bryan was great at the PPV, but rest... meh. Why bother?

Monday Night Raw is going to 3 hours soon. Ugh I'm so glad I almost never watch it live now. They can't manage 2 good hours of TV most days. I don't think I've seen a good 3 hour RAW in almost a decade and there's been alot since then.

The 3 hour PPV's each month normally only have 40 minutes worth watching.

To be totally fucking honest, if I didn't participate in fantasy wrestling, I'm not sure I could even make the effort to watch the PPVs.  I know it was a bad sign for my wrestling fandom when I chose to watch a Sunday Night Football game between two teams I hate rather than a WWE PPV.

I liked the 4 way championship at the PPV as well.  I'm glad they are continuing with the Punk vs Bryan feud.  The Christian surprise return was nice.  The main event was horrible as you could tell what was going to happen at the end.   They are devauling their world titles by focusing on a Big Show-Cena feud which we've seen a gazillion times.  Cena vs John Lauranitis is basically a rehash of Austin vs McMahon.  I hate to sound mean but Cena getting injured/leaving for a few months might be the best for the long term future of the WWE.  It might actually cause them to write something interesting for once.

Axl S
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Re: The Wrestling thread

Axl S wrote:
slashsfro wrote:

I hate to sound mean but Cena getting injured/leaving for a few months might be the best for the long term future of the WWE.  It might actually cause them to write something interesting for once.

I really wish he'd go on a holiday, I'm sure they'd be willing to give him time off if he really asked. Since he came back from that injury for the 2008 Royal Rumble he's never been away for more than 2-3 weeks tops. It would be great for Cena to go away for a while and come back with a refreshed character, not even a heel turn just something different. He's been cutting the same promos since around 2005/06 now and it's stale as hell.

I actually like Cena, he seems likeable and he can go in the ring and have good matches: his matches with Punk are evidence of that- and no Punk was not carrying him, they both pulled their weight. I also recall some good matches with Ziggler that I've seen of him. I just wish they'd use him better because now the WWE Championship or World Heavyweight Title haven't main evented a PPV since TLC and it's really devaluing them because Cena is being booked above the title: It's now the case that you haven't made it until you've won the title and beat Cena on PPV.

Axlin16
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Re: The Wrestling thread

Axlin16 wrote:
AtariLegend wrote:

Punk vs Bryan was great at the PPV, but rest... meh. Why bother?

Monday Night Raw is going to 3 hours soon. Ugh I'm so glad I almost never watch it live now. They can't manage 2 good hours of TV most days. I don't think I've seen a good 3 hour RAW in almost a decade and there's been alot since then.

The 3 hour PPV's each month normally only have 40 minutes worth watching.

Oh Jesus Christ NO!


The 2-hour show is so skull-numbing doucheness as it is. It is so pathetically bad, it reminds me of 1995-96 WWF era with McMahon screaming throughout the entire show about "Big Daddy Cool Diesel" destroying Undertaker's casket, without any fuckin' plot point at all.

At least during that period the writing was terrible, with a roster full of future legends, so packed that HHH was a jobber.


They DO NOT have that right now. It's a crappy roster full of no-heat's, with their worst writing in almost two decades.

Re: The Wrestling thread

AtariLegend wrote:

At this rate, I think WWE will be sold before TNA.

3 Hours Of Nitro was silly in the 90s, when WCW had one of the greatest wrestling rosters of all time.

2 1/2 hrs of stupid wrestling promo/skits and 30 mins of wrestling. Eugh. At least if they go out of business, I won't have to watch it.

Axlin16
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Re: The Wrestling thread

Axlin16 wrote:

You can literally download the WWE Raw 3-hour shows, and with commercials cut out, it's basically 1 hour and 20 minutes, and 50-60 minutes of that (no shit), is just ring announcers talking, people walking down the ramp with their music being played and getting into the ring and promos being shot. No wrestling.

slashsfro
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Re: The Wrestling thread

slashsfro wrote:

Bad week for the WWE.

Jericho suspended for 30 days for desecrating the Brazillian flag.

Orton is out for 60 days after failing a wellness test.

And last week's RAW drew a 2.75 rating.  They almost to do something different since stars are getting suspended or injured on a weekly basis and their show rating is in the toilet.

Axlin16
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Re: The Wrestling thread

Axlin16 wrote:

If Dixie Carter had any brains about her at all, right now would be a PERFECT time to make their move and really gain some heat, because once again just like the mid 90's, WWE is limping.

Problem is, she's gonna rely on all the wrong people AGAIN to do it. Russo, Bischoff, Hogan, Flair, etc. All of the wrong people.


Let alone the 3-hour RAW, I cannot for the life of me believe that SmackDown even still exists, or has existed within the last few years. SyFy loyalists HATE the fact it's even on there, and I don't see why anyone would watch a double dose of the WWE at this point.

It would greatly benefit McMahon just dropping it at this point, and merging the locker rooms and trimming some of the fat.


Thing is he wants that SyFy ad revenue.

Bono
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Re: The Wrestling thread

Bono wrote:

I've been saying that for years. Smackdown became irrlevant almost 10 years ago.  The need to overload RAW with the stars, cut the fat as you call it and cancell Smackdown.  It's been my rallying cray forever now.

And what is up with Brock Lesnar? Is he done? He was at the UFC pay-per-view last week and there's reports(confirmed by Dana himself) that he and Dana White have met about him returning to UFC.

Axlin16
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Re: The Wrestling thread

Axlin16 wrote:

If he's already returning to UFC, that is a HUGE blow to McMahon. He was banking on a long run with Lesnar back in WWE. If Lesnar goes, then Jericho is gone for 30 days, Orton's gone for 2 months. He doesn't have The Rock push that he had last year.



I'd say call Austin, but at this point no need to drag Stone Cold down on a sinking ship. Ugh.

slashsfro
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Re: The Wrestling thread

slashsfro wrote:
Bono wrote:

I've been saying that for years. Smackdown became irrlevant almost 10 years ago.  The need to overload RAW with the stars, cut the fat as you call it and cancell Smackdown.  It's been my rallying cray forever now.

And what is up with Brock Lesnar? Is he done? He was at the UFC pay-per-view last week and there's reports(confirmed by Dana himself) that he and Dana White have met about him returning to UFC.

I'd doubt Lesnar is returning to UFC.  He's getting paid 5 million this year for a limited amount of dates.

As to why he's hasn't shown up lately,  he's only contracted to show up twice a month (or something close to that) so they brought back Paul Heyman as a mouthpiece.  Latest rumor is that he'll most likely be facing HHH at SummerSlam.

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