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monkeychow
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Re: Gotta Love Adler: RS Interview "I'm done with him"

monkeychow wrote:
Axlin12 wrote:

Last year my grandfather died, and within a month my grandmother who was married to him for 53 years, was sleeping with another man. Alot of us, my father and other uncle, and myself... just kinda accepted it. Time moves on and he's dead.

But not my other uncle. He came up with and still does, blame everything under the sun, including the man. My grandmother "had an emotional breakdown", "she's been brainwashed", everything... because he just can't accept that his mother... is a slut. She is.

Getting old alone is a terrifying prospect though, especially if she'd spent all those years married. My father is dead and my mother won't get together with someone else out of his memory. But it's things like - if she falls over - how many hours would she lie there before someone realises she didn't show up that day to where she was expected? You don't worry about stuff like that at our age living alone....but when you get old...you start to see a pretty lonely future. So it may not be so much about the sex to her as it could be about the companionship.

I see what you mean about Steven though. But then it has to be hard for him. Imagine being in GNR then loosing it. Imagine if you actually knew guys like Axl and Slash as your pals...then have to sit around and watch as everything biodegrades around you. I mean they've been offered $200 million or something to reunite...the media would eat it up...

So it's got to be hard to sit around as steven and listen to slash saying "I have no idea what will happen at the hall" like it's someone else's party and Axl saying his nonsense about Slash not being a good guitarist...when all the tools for world domination are there and gathering dust in their reach...it shits me...it must be almost intolerable if you're right in the middle of it like Steven....

apex-twin
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Re: Gotta Love Adler: RS Interview "I'm done with him"

apex-twin wrote:
Axlin12 wrote:

Steven is the good guy here. Look at history. Steven gets fired for doing "too many drugs" in Guns N' Roses.

For doing Erin Everly.

misterID
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Re: Gotta Love Adler: RS Interview "I'm done with him"

misterID wrote:

I seriously don't think Steven did that. And I think it was more about giving her heroin, or that's what Axl says. Steven denies that.

Re: Gotta Love Adler: RS Interview "I'm done with him"

Sky Dog wrote:

it was giving her heroin....

Axlin16
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Re: Gotta Love Adler: RS Interview "I'm done with him"

Axlin16 wrote:

After 20 years and a REALLY nasty divorce, i'm sure Axl's over it. Otherwise Steven would've never been invited to hang out with them in Vegas in 2006.

monkeychow wrote:
Axlin12 wrote:

Last year my grandfather died, and within a month my grandmother who was married to him for 53 years, was sleeping with another man. Alot of us, my father and other uncle, and myself... just kinda accepted it. Time moves on and he's dead.

But not my other uncle. He came up with and still does, blame everything under the sun, including the man. My grandmother "had an emotional breakdown", "she's been brainwashed", everything... because he just can't accept that his mother... is a slut. She is.

Getting old alone is a terrifying prospect though, especially if she'd spent all those years married. My father is dead and my mother won't get together with someone else out of his memory. But it's things like - if she falls over - how many hours would she lie there before someone realises she didn't show up that day to where she was expected? You don't worry about stuff like that at our age living alone....but when you get old...you start to see a pretty lonely future. So it may not be so much about the sex to her as it could be about the companionship.

I see what you mean about Steven though. But then it has to be hard for him. Imagine being in GNR then loosing it. Imagine if you actually knew guys like Axl and Slash as your pals...then have to sit around and watch as everything biodegrades around you. I mean they've been offered $200 million or something to reunite...the media would eat it up...

So it's got to be hard to sit around as steven and listen to slash saying "I have no idea what will happen at the hall" like it's someone else's party and Axl saying his nonsense about Slash not being a good guitarist...when all the tools for world domination are there and gathering dust in their reach...it shits me...it must be almost intolerable if you're right in the middle of it like Steven....

I don't think anyone begrudges her for needing campanionship. It was the speed of how quickly she got it that pissed everyone off, not to mention she was not actually alone. Her twin sister is also a widow and basically spent entire weeks with her off-set, so neither of them were alone.

My other grandfather has severe Dementia and one day he asked my mother (his daughter) about my late grandfather, basically saying "wasn't he sick and passed way recently?" (he couldn't remember).

We reminded him yes, and his next question was "when?". We told him. Then he asked what my grandmother was up to. We told him palling around with a new man. His response in a full Dementia-haze, "already? That was a planned piece of business right there".


If a man with Alzheimer's that can barely walk and no longer can sign his own name can put two and two together that quickly... how do you think everyone else looks at it, including her actual family AND her lover's family? 16

Bono
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Re: Gotta Love Adler: RS Interview "I'm done with him"

Bono wrote:
misterID wrote:
metallex78 wrote:
Axlin12 wrote:

Gilby was there because the beer was cold.

A bit harsh. Gilby stood up to the plate again, when it was all too much for Izzy, just like he did on the UYI world tour. I give props to the guy.

Gilby went because they invited him. I don't know what he did that was so great here. They were basically throwing him a bone and he was happy to go.

Pfft! You make it sound as though Gilby has been stressing over this for the last ten years just dieing to be acknowldged and if he wasn't made a part of it his life would be incomplete and he was gonna off himself if they didn't "throw him a  bone".  It's more like Gilby threw the fans a bone. Yeah they invited him because the guy he replaced the first time refused to show up. They didn't throw Gilby anything. They needed a guy to play and the logical choice was Gilby and he stepped into Izzy's shoes in fan-fucking-tastic form once again.  Don't down play what Gilby did.

Axlin16
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Re: Gotta Love Adler: RS Interview "I'm done with him"

Axlin16 wrote:

He will. ID has made it very clear that he hates Gilby. Not really sure why. He seems to have a major man crush on Fffffffff4tus.

misterID
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Re: Gotta Love Adler: RS Interview "I'm done with him"

misterID wrote:

I can't downplay what Gilby did because he didn't do anything. He was a stand in. I don't see them giving Oscars out for the best stand in. And I'm not a real big fan of his guitar style. I didn't think he fit with those guys back then.

He was the first to respond (that I remember) about being inducted and he said it was a great honor to be recognized, meaning, to me at least, that he thought he was in too. So yeah, they were throwing him a bone once they knew Izzy wasn't going. Gilby wasn't showing up for the fans. The fans had nothing to do with it. That's just silly. He was happy they invited him when they didn't have to. No more, no less. Nothing wrong with that.   

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I do like Fortus though. Really impressed with him on this last tour.

Bono
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Re: Gotta Love Adler: RS Interview "I'm done with him"

Bono wrote:

yeah you know exactly what Gilby was thinking. He wasn't doing anything for the fans he was all about self promotion and just happy they invited him. Thank god they threw him that bone.

"I can't downplay what Gilby did because he didn't do anything."

Gilby did nothing? Yeah ok.  roll

That or he did what he always did and thats fill in for Izzy in a  big way.  It amazes me how unappreciative some of you are towards guys like Matt and Gilby yet praise the shit out of guys who have in essence done fuck all in Gn'R.

Axlin16
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Re: Gotta Love Adler: RS Interview "I'm done with him"

Axlin16 wrote:

I still have no fucking clue how ID thinks Gilby's STONES-influenced style didn't fit in with the 92-93 GN'R, but Love Spit Love Richard Fortus fits so much better.


Huh?


That's like saying Robin works better than Slash in GN'R. But enough about Russ... *puts gun in mouth*

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