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RussTCB
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Re: Sinead O'Conner ('Very Unwell')

RussTCB wrote:

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Axlin16
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Re: Sinead O'Conner ('Very Unwell')

Axlin16 wrote:

She's done



She's in pitiful shape, physically, mentally, emotionally, and artistically. She has no heat, nothing to push, and promoters are now gonna fully label her as a headcase and to unpredictable for a full fledged tour.


Sure she can always do house/club shows, but her days of a real comeback, real big push, are long gone after this.

RussTCB
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Re: Sinead O'Conner ('Very Unwell')

RussTCB wrote:

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-D-
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Re: Sinead O'Conner ('Very Unwell')

-D- wrote:
Axlin12 wrote:

She's done



She's in pitiful shape, physically, mentally, emotionally, and artistically. She has no heat, nothing to push, and promoters are now gonna fully label her as a headcase and to unpredictable for a full fledged tour.


Sure she can always do house/club shows, but her days of a real comeback, real big push, are long gone after this.

Eerily sounds like Axl after RIR4

Axlin16
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Re: Sinead O'Conner ('Very Unwell')

Axlin16 wrote:

Ehh, Axl did lay a fat egg at Rio IV and alot of us were insanely worried, but I still think the key difference was Axl STILL wasn't 'artistically' in pitiful shape. I still think he has SOMETHING to push AND the Guns N' Roses brand name still carries heavy weight internationally.

Sinead O'Connor just doesn't, and for as much as Axl is rock's #1 heel, people and the media worldwide still "love to hate him" ala JR to the left of me. Axl also deserves credit for washing that 2002 stain off, and that Axl has proven to promoters worldwide that he CAN tour and tour successfully without incident, head issue or otherwise, which means he's a profitable venture. Just the bottom line on that.


Axl Rose will still always be Axl Rose, love him or hate him. Even i've learned that lesson for the good and the bad.

monkeychow
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Re: Sinead O'Conner ('Very Unwell')

monkeychow wrote:

It says her gigs were professional and uneventful...so promoter wise i'd say she could come back. Why do they care if she's unbalanced between shows. She'll get back on her meds and go back to before this incident i'd have thought.

As for Axl. Artistically I'm sure he's far from done. The question to me is what shape is his voice in. He's sort of in a catch 22 at the moment I think...people want him to move onto the new songs...but Twat, Scraped, If the world....punishing vocally.....

Me_Wise_Magic
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Re: Sinead O'Conner ('Very Unwell')

Especially TWAT and Prostitute. On that show in OSAKA 09, he was struggling with those high parts. I can't complain cause I wouldn't be able to do anything of that shit with my voice. 14  I applaud him for busting out those songs and wish he would do it more often. Also put in Perfect Crime, Yesterdays, Dead Horse, Oh My God, and new songs!

Axlin16
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Re: Sinead O'Conner ('Very Unwell')

Axlin16 wrote:
monkeychow wrote:

It says her gigs were professional and uneventful...so promoter wise i'd say she could come back. Why do they care if she's unbalanced between shows. She'll get back on her meds and go back to before this incident i'd have thought.

As for Axl. Artistically I'm sure he's far from done. The question to me is what shape is his voice in. He's sort of in a catch 22 at the moment I think...people want him to move onto the new songs...but Twat, Scraped, If the world....punishing vocally.....

Promoters don't like investing money and time on people who cancel tours.


And in 2002 & 2006, Axl Rose had a mega-marketable brand name. Sinead O'Connor doesn't. The rest is just self-explantion and speculation.


As for Axl, I truely believe he 'protects' his voice at this point. I'm almost convinced of it. No way he can go out and sing Jungle like it's the '88 VMA's every night, then do You're Crazy and sound like the Fox Late Show, then go 2002 helium on everything else.

I don't buy it.

I think Axl in spurts (studio takes), can do full blown vintage rasp. He just can't sustain it for 3 hours straight anymore.


I honestly wouldn't worry Monkey. I think the fans are just gonna have to deal with "this is what Axl will sound like live". In the studio, I still think he's 1991. And that's really all that matters.

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