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Re: Hologram Performances Discussion
I dunno, to me the whole point of a live performance is the spontaneity and interaction with the audience. Which a recording can't do. And which Freddie Mercury did very well indeed. I'd much rather go see Queen with Adam Lambert or whoever - get a good live performer up there and have them interact with the crowd - than Brian and Roger performing with a CGI imitation Freddie hologram.
Re: Hologram Performances Discussion
This totally opens up the door for a purely computer generated artist. Have an algorithm crank out mathematically pleasing melodies. Then you create the artist reflecting the needs of the proper demographic, the right voice, right color of skin, right hair, right opinions etc.
Oops, looks like they're already doing this..
Re: Hologram Performances Discussion
struck wrote:Don't like it. I'm not a rap fan but the Guy is dead let em rest in piece. It goes to show u tho this world is only about money and nothing else. Even in death there going to try and rake in bucks.
See but that's what I'm on the fence about. Check out those Elvis videos I posted above. For someone like me who was 2 when Elvis died, those shows were awesome.
Yeah but the thing is, the music industry has ALWAYS been about making as much money as possible. Even the artists feel that way to an extent. Axl Rose would be doing shows for free if it wasn't about the money.
At the same time, I also don't buy "the guy is dead and you're using his likeness".
This same argument came up with Fred Astaire doing vaccuum cleaner commercials.
Imo, when someone becomes a public figure and projects that likeness in a daily, worldwide level, the ownership of their likeness becomes anyone property to own, whether it be themselves, their estate, or the record company.
If they or their ghost don't like it... they shouldn't have become a popularized performer.
jmho
Re: Hologram Performances Discussion
Yeah I like you have certain preferences of what i'd shell out to see.
For example...
I won't see Elvis on a screen, but would gladly see an Elvis hologram
I won't see a Freddie impersonator, but would prefer Freddie on screen as a tribute.
And rather than watch old videos of Axl, i'd rather he be honored with impersonator with Slash & Duff, before a hologram, although the hologram would be fine too.
Kinda weird.
I think Alice In Chains in someone where that could come in handy. I really think DuVall is overrated and brings literally nothing to the band (sorry AIC fans). I don't hate DuVall, but his prescence other than added guitar is pointless. It's still a trio, and basically Jerry Cantrell on lead, which could be done with or without DuVall.
So consider Layne Staley. Here's a guy who didn't move alot. The band has played up "the ghost" persona. They could easily drop DuVall and have hologram Layne front AIC shows. Just pipe in soundboard vocals in Layne's parts, and have Jerry handle his "frontman for a song" stuff, especially on Tripod, and of course on the new post-Layne stuff.
AIC might be the "perfect" rock scenario for something like this. Especially when they've already got dead weight in the band with DuVall.
Re: Hologram Performances Discussion
Axlin12 wrote:Yeah I like you have certain preferences of what i'd shell out to see.
For example...
I won't see Elvis on a screen, but would gladly see an Elvis hologram
I won't see a Freddie impersonator, but would prefer Freddie on screen as a tribute.
And rather than watch old videos of Axl, i'd rather he be honored with impersonator with Slash & Duff, before a hologram, although the hologram would be fine too.
Kinda weird.
I think Alice In Chains in someone where that could come in handy. I really think DuVall is overrated and brings literally nothing to the band (sorry AIC fans). I don't hate DuVall, but his prescence other than added guitar is pointless. It's still a trio, and basically Jerry Cantrell on lead, which could be done with or without DuVall.
So consider Layne Staley. Here's a guy who didn't move alot. The band has played up "the ghost" persona. They could easily drop DuVall and have hologram Layne front AIC shows. Just pipe in soundboard vocals in Layne's parts, and have Jerry handle his "frontman for a song" stuff, especially on Tripod, and of course on the new post-Layne stuff.
AIC might be the "perfect" rock scenario for something like this. Especially when they've already got dead weight in the band with DuVall.
Not to hijack the thread about Elvis specifically, but let me tell you, I was VERY skeptical of that whole deal prior to seeing it. On top of that, I accidentally bought second row at The Palace the first time I saw it in 98. So I went in thinking "Awww shit. The illusion will be completely ruined since I'm so close".
About 3 songs in, I honestly completely and totally forget he wasn't actually there. When he introduces the real James Burton, Ronnie Tutt, etc... it's awesome. They even did the "Funny How Time Slips Away" thing where they brought the house lights up so Elvis could "take a look at us" and it was just awesome.
As I said I've seen it several times including once in Memphis but the first one here in Detroit was just magic. To give you an idea of how good they pull off the "he's there" vibe", during the first show they were doing "Just Pretend" and when they went into the last chorus, I was singing along and staring up at the giant screen. When Elvis went to sing the very last "....we'll just pretend" I looked down to the stage where he should've been and got choked up because I immediately thought "OH YEAH, he's hot here"
I think it would freak me out LOL. That would b like me going to c AC/DC and bon Scott walking out on stage. I know he died in 1980, but to c that I think I would trully b freaked out. I understand your point tho.
Re: Hologram Performances Discussion
Axlin12 wrote:Yeah I like you have certain preferences of what i'd shell out to see.
For example...
I won't see Elvis on a screen, but would gladly see an Elvis hologram
I won't see a Freddie impersonator, but would prefer Freddie on screen as a tribute.
And rather than watch old videos of Axl, i'd rather he be honored with impersonator with Slash & Duff, before a hologram, although the hologram would be fine too.
Kinda weird.
I think Alice In Chains in someone where that could come in handy. I really think DuVall is overrated and brings literally nothing to the band (sorry AIC fans). I don't hate DuVall, but his prescence other than added guitar is pointless. It's still a trio, and basically Jerry Cantrell on lead, which could be done with or without DuVall.
So consider Layne Staley. Here's a guy who didn't move alot. The band has played up "the ghost" persona. They could easily drop DuVall and have hologram Layne front AIC shows. Just pipe in soundboard vocals in Layne's parts, and have Jerry handle his "frontman for a song" stuff, especially on Tripod, and of course on the new post-Layne stuff.
AIC might be the "perfect" rock scenario for something like this. Especially when they've already got dead weight in the band with DuVall.
Not to hijack the thread about Elvis specifically, but let me tell you, I was VERY skeptical of that whole deal prior to seeing it. On top of that, I accidentally bought second row at The Palace the first time I saw it in 98. So I went in thinking "Awww shit. The illusion will be completely ruined since I'm so close".
About 3 songs in, I honestly completely and totally forget he wasn't actually there. When he introduces the real James Burton, Ronnie Tutt, etc... it's awesome. They even did the "Funny How Time Slips Away" thing where they brought the house lights up so Elvis could "take a look at us" and it was just awesome.
As I said I've seen it several times including once in Memphis but the first one here in Detroit was just magic. To give you an idea of how good they pull off the "he's there" vibe", during the first show they were doing "Just Pretend" and when they went into the last chorus, I was singing along and staring up at the giant screen. When Elvis went to sing the very last "....we'll just pretend" I looked down to the stage where he should've been and got choked up because I immediately thought "OH YEAH, he's hot here"
I think that concept pretty much applies to new GN'R.
I think alot of people just go to have a few drinks, listen to some tunes, hang out with friends and just escape for the night.
People don't sit around going "DJ's not Slash, where's Slash". I've watched people get so moved by hearing a certain song they actually kinda forget the band is not... the band.
And I think the same logic here applies. As long as the presentation is superior and thought out well, I think some will just forget they aren't seeing the real deal.
Then again it might be easier, because E's been dead for years. Freddie would work too. Michael Jackson would work too, because he hasn't been on tour in quite a while.
I think for some of these more recent shows, it'd be more difficult. Think if Bono died. U2 fans imo would need some time and seperation from the real deal, before they would be willing to shell out on a Bono tribute show.
