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Re: All Original GUNS Members Will Be At ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME
the only thing that stopped steven being unarguably one of rocks great drummer's was his addiction (& maybe his relationship with axl).
tho, imo, his playing on Jungle alone cements his status as one of rocks iconic drummers. on the album, to use the parlance of our times, he is the one that brings the ruckus. as has been mentioned his groove is essential to that album's sexiness & swagger, & charm.
i am surprised at the haters. they seem to be missing the essential funk steven brought.
& yea, if he hadn't of fucked it up he maybe coulda held it together... but i don't subscribe to the idea that "he only made one album" or "if he'd played on yada yada yada" or, the worst argument, "technically he wasn't great". AFD is his meal ticket, yea - but it's the greatest album ever & he helped make it. how the fuck is he not one of rocks greatest drummers? you only need one album when that one album is perfect.
it all went tits up after farm aid. you all know it.
&, fwiw, there's not one song on CD Slash couldn't have improved. that includes TWAT.
i think matt should get in. he helped them achieve great things. maybe it coulda been anyone, but it was him. & he played on great songs on great albums.
& i think it's OBVIOUS if they reform they should play Easy/Nightrain/ScoM.
but it's OBVIOUS they won't.
Re: All Original GUNS Members Will Be At ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME
I'm starting to wonder if you've even listened to CD.
I know you hate the album, but you might want to go listen to the instrumentals. Awesome drumming there.
I don't hate the album.. just think its crazily overrated by GNR fans. Axl's vocals/melodies etc are incredible but the album just is so uneven musically not to mention terrible production.. demo quality of certain songs/instruments
After all these years.. Only songs i still truly love are Madagascar,This I Love *with DJ Solo* Sorry,RIR3 version of Blues Demo of Catcher and sometimes Prostitute and Better
rest i think is rather forgettable even TWAT. Axl's lyrics on there do nothing for me.
Just listened again.. Drums are so buried its ridiculous.. i hear a nice fill here n there... hardly groundbreaking.. Point is.. It isn't like he is drumming something Adler doesn't have the skill to.
just like rest of CD, drums sound like an afterthought.
Re: All Original GUNS Members Will Be At ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME
the only thing that stopped steven being unarguably one of rocks great drummer's was his addiction (& maybe his relationship with axl).
tho, imo, his playing on Jungle alone cements his status as one of rocks iconic drummers. on the album, to use the parlance of our times, he is the one that brings the ruckus. as has been mentioned his groove is essential to that album's sexiness & swagger, & charm.
i am surprised at the haters. they seem to be missing the essential funk steven brought.& yea, if he hadn't of fucked it up he maybe coulda held it together... but i don't subscribe to the idea that "he only made one album" or "if he'd played on yada yada yada" or, the worst argument, "technically he wasn't great". AFD is his meal ticket, yea - but it's the greatest album ever & he helped make it. how the fuck is he not one of rocks greatest drummers? you only need one album when that one album is perfect.
it all went tits up after farm aid. you all know it.
&, fwiw, there's not one song on CD Slash couldn't have improved. that includes TWAT.
i think matt should get in. he helped them achieve great things. maybe it coulda been anyone, but it was him. & he played on great songs on great albums.
& i think it's OBVIOUS if they reform they should play Easy/Nightrain/ScoM.
but it's OBVIOUS they won't.
Damn, too bad u don't have karma acceptable. great post.
Re: All Original GUNS Members Will Be At ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME
I don't think AFD is perfect.
It is a great, great album and Adler does his job well. He does add some nice licks to the funkier stuff like Brownstone and Rocket Queen.
Close to perfect for a hard rock album? Yes. But, definitely not a perfect album. Any album with Anything Goes on it is not perfect.
Re: All Original GUNS Members Will Be At ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME
I don't think AFD is perfect.
It is a great, great album and Adler does his job well. He does add some nice licks to the funkier stuff like Brownston and Rocket Queen.
Close to perfect for a hard rock album? Yes. But, definitely not a perfect album. Any album with Anything Goes on it is not perfect.
True, that and You're Crazy are skipped..Damn if they had just added YCBM and anything else.
Re: All Original GUNS Members Will Be At ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME
misterID wrote:I'm starting to wonder if you've even listened to CD.
I know you hate the album, but you might want to go listen to the instrumentals. Awesome drumming there.
I don't hate the album.. just think its crazily overrated by GNR fans.
To play devil's advocate. I think the album is crazily underrated by non-GNR fans.
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Re: All Original GUNS Members Will Be At ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME
madagas wrote:I don't think AFD is perfect.
It is a great, great album and Adler does his job well. He does add some nice licks to the funkier stuff like Brownston and Rocket Queen.
Close to perfect for a hard rock album? Yes. But, definitely not a perfect album. Any album with Anything Goes on it is not perfect.
True, that and You're Crazy are skipped..Damn if they had just added YCBM and anything else.
You Could Be Mine
Don't Damn Me
Don't Cry
Instead of "I think about you", "Your Crazy", and "Anything Goes"... Wow.
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Re: All Original GUNS Members Will Be At ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME
-D- wrote:misterID wrote:I'm starting to wonder if you've even listened to CD.
I know you hate the album, but you might want to go listen to the instrumentals. Awesome drumming there.
I don't hate the album.. just think its crazily overrated by GNR fans.
To play devil's advocate. I think the album is crazily underrated by non-GNR fans.
I agree. Better, This I Love, Chinese, Madagascar, Street of Dreams, and Prostitute have great production and sound better than some of the songs on UYI.
