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Re: SLASH: New Album Release Date Announced
I find it funny that anyone can sit there and say with a straight face Slash's album is overrated by Slash fans or that it's a "turd" yet here we are on website dedicated to Guns N' Roses where it's fans overrate CD to such exagerated levels on a daily basis. That's gotta be the Axl camp doing that no? Seriously can't it just be music fans? Why do we always have to draw lines in the sand? Only Slash fans can legitimately favor his output while proper intelligent music fans will choose the CD material? Fuck all that nonsense. Just saying... It always amuses me how it always goes down this road.
- metallex78
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I thought the 'Slash' album was solid, really inspired in parts, and kinda dull in others. Not his worst work, but not his best either.
I think having a band that he's gelled with on the road, as opposed to session musicians, will help produce much better results.
I'm REALLY looking forward to this regardless, and I look forward to blasting this in May!
- elevendayempire
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I just can't get into Ghost. I know everyone loves it, but the lyrics are just fucking daft. "Kill the ghost that hides in your soul/Rock n' roll." Fucksake.
By the Sword is awesome, but like all of the good tracks on that album, I find myself listening to the guitar work and thinking, "Yup, that'd be a better song with Axl or VR + Chester Bennington/Scott Weiland/Corey Taylor/whoever on there."
Re: SLASH: New Album Release Date Announced
monkeychow wrote:Sort of astounded that anyone would consider the last album a turd.
By the Sword was amazing
Ghost was a solid rocker
Nothing to Say has some great soloing
Watch This! is like classic slash riffing...I think it's one of his best albums in years.
Agreed and even the track with Fergie was pretty damn cool I thought. I like Slash's solo album better than CD and both VR albums to be totally honest.
I agree with you guys. Add Dr. Alibi and Promise though.
Re: SLASH: New Album Release Date Announced
So once again Mikka & Bono bring up Axl and Chinese in a Slash thread, but that's okay -- i'll bite.
It'd be shocking to see that an Axl fan thinks that Saint Is A Sinner or Gotten sucks, but we're used to double-standards.
If these songs are average at best, then what can be said about Catcher, ITW, SoD or Madagascar? Let me guess... awesome, the best thing since slice bread, heartbreaking, groundbreaking... help me out with the praise. If Gotten sucks, then CD's ballads suck donkey balls. Only TWAT and TIL are on the same level with these Slash songs (a bit above, to be fair, if you take away Robin Finck's horror).
Madagascar is fucking awesome, one of my Top-10 GN'R songs.
Catcher, If The World, & SOD I can see your feelings there. That's opinion.
I think Ron butchered Catcher (the Brian May '99 demo is far superior), If The World is vastly overrated by Axl fans, and SOD was better in it's 2002 Robin & Bucket guitar-heave "The Blues" version.
I find it funny that anyone can sit there and say with a straight face Slash's album is overrated by Slash fans or that it's a "turd" yet here we are on website dedicated to Guns N' Roses where it's fans overrate CD to such exagerated levels on a daily basis. That's gotta be the Axl camp doing that no? Seriously can't it just be music fans? Why do we always have to draw lines in the sand? Only Slash fans can legitimately favor his output while proper intelligent music fans will choose the CD material? Fuck all that nonsense. Just saying... It always amuses me how it always goes down this road.
Who brought Axl up? I don't remember bringing Axl up.
I'm just more of an Izzy fan. I think Slash 2010 is the best thing Slash has ever done... and only half the album is truely "that damn good".
I never liked Snakepit
I don't like Slash with Scott Weiland, and thus VR is very hit and miss
I think Slash 2010 was where he truely found himself, but he still needs outside help imo to bring his talents full circle. Other than Ian Astbury, there's nobody on there more qualified (to my shock) to try to fine hone Slash than Myles Kennedy.
This second album... we'll see. The first album was a 'rebirth' of sorts to me for Slash. But the lasagna needs more seasoning. We'll see where it goes.
Axl on the other hand was a case of the lasanga getting too much seasoning, and over-baked for so long that it got burnt. There were a few slices that were fantastic, some were okay, others were burnt to a crisp that were seasoned just right, but just didn't come out because Axl cooked them too long.
jmho
- Mikkamakka
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Re: SLASH: New Album Release Date Announced
Correct response, sir.
But. I have a thing with the Izzy fanboyism. IMO he hasn't done jack shit since GN'R and his solo works are uninspired, boring and generic. I could only name like 5 songs that could have been something with the others', Slash's and Axl's help. I think the Izzy myth is the biggest misconception of the whole GN'R saga.
Staying ontopic... tell me what magnificent you hear by Izzy on Ghost. TBH I even question Slash saying the truth that Izzy's there, cause the second guitar is basically doing nothing, a chord here and there, but nothing in the great Izzy style of AFD and Lies, with the sleazy, bit out-of-tempo, sloppy played strange notes. I absolutely loved that. But this cannot be more than some cut-out chords from the early The Project sessions that fit the song, or Izzy lost it even more than I thought. Slash's riff makes Ghost musically, not the rhythm guitar. Prove me wrong.
Re: SLASH: New Album Release Date Announced
It's not so much where Izzy is up front just jamming it. It's more about the fact that I don't find it to be a complete shock that the Slash & Izzy song seems to be the strongest track on the album and holds together the best.
Like I said before Ghost could be a Illusion I song. It might be the closest Slash song to sounding like a full-blown Guns song.
I don't think Izzy being involved just happens to be a fluke. I'd be real anxious to hear the quality of that Axl & Izzy, "Down By The Ocean" GN'R song.
- Me_Wise_Magic
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I can't wait to hear that song!! I'm hoping Down by the Ocean gets released in some shape or form in the next few years. That's why I personally think Axl should go the Brian Wilson way and release a few CDs of just session work, demos, and commentary and sell them at all retail stores and online stores at a fair price ($15 to $25). Then release a limited box set filled with a ton of content. I heard some of the Smile Sessions and the stuff on there was mind blowing. The session work on the album itself is a masterpiece that they could finally paint a picture on what the hell was actually going on at the time. Axl and the GNR session members can put the legacy to rest and the current lineup can release the new songs written with DJ, Bumbles, Frank, etc.
- tejastech08
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Correct response, sir.
But. I have a thing with the Izzy fanboyism. IMO he hasn't done jack shit since GN'R and his solo works are uninspired, boring and generic. I could only name like 5 songs that could have been something with the others', Slash's and Axl's help. I think the Izzy myth is the biggest misconception of the whole GN'R saga.
Staying ontopic... tell me what magnificent you hear by Izzy on Ghost. TBH I even question Slash saying the truth that Izzy's there, cause the second guitar is basically doing nothing, a chord here and there, but nothing in the great Izzy style of AFD and Lies, with the sleazy, bit out-of-tempo, sloppy played strange notes. I absolutely loved that. But this cannot be more than some cut-out chords from the early The Project sessions that fit the song, or Izzy lost it even more than I thought. Slash's riff makes Ghost musically, not the rhythm guitar. Prove me wrong.
"Beat Up" and "Rollin Rollin" both kick the shit out of anything Axl or Slash have done in the last 20 years. Izzy is the only one who has recently managed to capture the hard rock spirit that made GN'R so great. There isn't some "myth" here. Go ask Duff what he thinks.
Re: SLASH: New Album Release Date Announced
Slash songs have been hurt by terrible lyrics, that's not exactly his fault. There's songs on 'Slash' that just strke me as old guy rock that was mailed in, like Crucify The Dead. But the solo is good.
Slash is solid on the album. My biggest problem with Slash is something he stated himself: Being afraid to ask Thom Yorke to be on the album. I wish he'd take a risk and bring in people like that, instead of taking the safe route with someone like Ozzy. Saint Is A Sinner is my favorite track from the album. And Promise. I liked a lot of the music he wrote.
The singers chosen were the ones who brought the album down for me, along with the lyrics they brought. Can you imagine Robert Plant on By The Sword? Bringing in Perry Ferrell, Norah Jones would be cool. Shooter Jennings. Chester Bennington. Or hear John Bush on Nothing To Say?
I wish Myles wasn't involved, but what are you going to do? I hope there's some good music, because I have no faith in that guy. I'm open to being surprised, though.