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- A Private Eye
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Re: LA Times Interview With Axl
I vaguely remember an interview with pitman just after CD came out and it did appear his overall contributions to GnR in the CD era are bigger than most realised. Obviously he's going to big himself up in an intertview but it did sound like he was more pivitol than hes generally given credit for by the fans.
Re: LA Times Interview With Axl
He does have two writing credits with Axl on If the World and Maddy. Plus, he is on almost every track in varying capacities. Just look at the liner notes...I don't think his parts are any more inconsequential than the 30 guitars on each track. Actually, he is more valuable to the album, in my eyes, than Ron and Richard. His keys give a pretty cool vibe to the record. To me, the best parts of the album are the keyboards, effects, lyrics, and orchestration. The guitars are good in parts but I find them to be the messiest part of the whole thing.
Plus, nobody can get drunk and fall in to a keyboard like Mother Goose!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A25JjlC8pAA
Re: LA Times Interview With Axl
I vaguely remember an interview with pitman just after CD came out and it did appear his overall contributions to GnR in the CD era are bigger than most realised. Obviously he's going to big himself up in an intertview but it did sound like he was more pivitol than hes generally given credit for by the fans.
Was that the radio interview he did with some english guy? I listened to that back then and remember going: "Wow, I never knew how much this guy was involved!"
There are two sides two this. And that is:
1) Pitman has obviously been a massiv part of GNR for over a decade.
You see it all over the credits in the CD-booklet. Anyone saying
differently, are talking out of their asshole! Simple as that!
or..
2) You've listened to CD and looked at the booklet and you don't like
what you think are his contributions to GNR! All well and
good, but it exposes either your lack of knowledge of music, that you
can't read properly OR your lack of knowledge of GNR history. Or all of
the above! Simple as that!
and goodnight!
Re: LA Times Interview With Axl
because pitman does somethign totally different than dizzy....
Dizzy plays standard classic piano and pitman does samples and sub-bass and synth work (more moderny stuff) ... i mean i could be wrong but i dont really think that pitman is playing "piano" per se
- Smoking Guns
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Re: LA Times Interview With Axl
Pitman is a leftover from the "industrial" phase that Axl went though. Real rock doesn't need Chris Pitman, but if it makes Axl feel better that he has a guy that can do electronica on a few tunes, who gives a fuck. Having 3 guitar players isn't necessary either, but Axl thinks it means a better show.. I guess.. But I don't see the need. Lynyrd Skynrd had the need, GNR, don't think so. And, if you are going to have 3 guys, how about some fucking harmony every now and then like Maiden and Judas Priest.
Re: LA Times Interview With Axl
Pittman was also a songwriter, he not only handles "industrial sounds" he also does production work, arrangements, orchestrations. I love his additions, especially to Estranged. And imo, he's one of the best post Izzy songwriter's GN'R has had. If you can hear the instrumentals of CD, and hear his work, it's totally mind blowing.
And I like what Dizzy brings, with the organ and keyboards. They're both "real rock."
Lets not slag mother goose, here. 
Re: LA Times Interview With Axl
A Private Eye wrote:I vaguely remember an interview with pitman just after CD came out and it did appear his overall contributions to GnR in the CD era are bigger than most realised. Obviously he's going to big himself up in an intertview but it did sound like he was more pivitol than hes generally given credit for by the fans.
Was that the radio interview he did with some english guy? I listened to that back then and remember going: "Wow, I never knew how much this guy was involved!"
There are two sides two this. And that is:
1) Pitman has obviously been a massiv part of GNR for over a decade.
You see it all over the credits in the CD-booklet. Anyone saying
differently, are talking out of their asshole! Simple as that!or..
2) You've listened to CD and looked at the booklet and you don't like
what you think are his contributions to GNR! All well and
good, but it exposes either your lack of knowledge of music, that you
can't read properly OR your lack of knowledge of GNR history. Or all of
the above! Simple as that!
It doesn't expose a lack of anything. If you don't like what is on the album and what clearly isn't drums or guitars there's a good chance it's Chris. Me thinking Chris is inconsequential simply means I think the album and songs would be just as good or better without his electronic tinkering.
having guitars players is more important to Guns N' Roses than an electronica/Industrial guy playing samples and synth. Thats' the difference. Obvioulsy Chris contributed more to CD than DJ or Ron but so what. I'm not talking about how much he contributed I'm talking about the quality of his contribution and in my opinion it's not all that great.
It has NOTHING to do with soemone talking out fo their asshole or lack of knowledge when it comes to Gn'R history or overall knowledge of music and it has fuck all to do with anyone's reading abilities. Simple as that!
and goodnight!
Re: LA Times Interview With Axl
So couldn't pitman do what dizzy does?
IMO having Pitman makes Dizzy redundant if they wanted to, which they obviously don't.
well thats the thing...i'm sure that dizzy could do what pitman does and pitman could do what dizzy does but at the end of the day they cant do both things at the same time ... therefore they need both...same reason they had zigzag and dizzy back in the uyi days..sure they could lose one of them but then the show dynamics and song arrangements would change
same with the 3 guitarists thing...yeah they could get away with 2...and they used to obviously back in the 90's but with 3 they can get in all those extra fills and other assorted parts that they couldnt cover live but actually appear on the album...in that sense the guitar parts and other little synthy shit that appears on the albums makes its way into the love show without having to rely on the soundboard putting it in the proper place at the proper tempo with whatever they may be doing on any particular night
