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- Randall Flagg
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Re: The Super Tuesday thread
Randall Flagg wrote:bigbri wrote:Randall, the delegates are gonna remain close in the Dems race because, like I said, Obama is winning a vast majority of the suburban vote vs. Hilary in the big city. He's winning more geographically. And there are races after Super Tuesday that Obama is leading in, such as Hawaii and D.C. He just needs to keep it close tonight. Then he can close the gap based on those future races.
But none of those races mean anything, they don't provide any delegates. That's the issue here. Obama could win all the states around Colorado and it wouldn't mean anything if Clinton won Cali by a substantial margin. I know people hate to hear it, but some states don't even play a factor in the process. This is something McCain needs to consider; he's won NY and CA, but he stands no chance of winning them in November. The same states that matter in November are the ones that matter now.
But they do mean something. Hilary wins Mass., for example, based on the area of population she wins. Obama actually wins more of the state, thus more districts, thus more delegates. Like Nevada. Hilary won Vegas, Obama won more of the state. Your headline the next day was: Hilary wins Nevada. Well, Ok, but Obama got more delegates out of it.
Do you not understand how that works or are you just trying to be argumentative?
I totally understand how it works, but states like Hawaii and DC don't provide any delegates of value. Hillary is still leading in delegates. Delegates still basically follow the popular vote and Hillary is still leading the popular vote overall. Wait a few hours and you'll see that Clinton won more delegates tonight than Obama, increasing her edge. People are going to take notice of that. You can't say Obama has momentum when he continually is outperformed by Hillary.
- Jimmy Zig Zag Bobiadis
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Re: The Super Tuesday thread
I'm waiting on delegate numbers, but I think Clinton will have effectively nullified Obama. While choosing Clinton to be Obama's VP would be of no benefit to Obama, Hillary picking Obama as her VP would do her much good.
I can't think of any well known Republican that would do well with McCain that is feasible. He needs a candidate that applies to the Romney base and not too many of them exist. I just hope McCain stays the course and doesn't get involved with the Jesus Heads. I don't care what people do in their bedroom and we need to keep guys like Jim Bob in business
dude if it didn't totally contradict my profession I would vote republican. In terms of economics, I much prefer the conservative side of things.. but on the social issues I tend to lean more liberal. When I lived in AZ i was registered as a Republican but when I moved to NV I just registered as independent because of what I don't.
Re: The Super Tuesday thread
bigbri wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:But none of those races mean anything, they don't provide any delegates. That's the issue here. Obama could win all the states around Colorado and it wouldn't mean anything if Clinton won Cali by a substantial margin. I know people hate to hear it, but some states don't even play a factor in the process. This is something McCain needs to consider; he's won NY and CA, but he stands no chance of winning them in November. The same states that matter in November are the ones that matter now.
But they do mean something. Hilary wins Mass., for example, based on the area of population she wins. Obama actually wins more of the state, thus more districts, thus more delegates. Like Nevada. Hilary won Vegas, Obama won more of the state. Your headline the next day was: Hilary wins Nevada. Well, Ok, but Obama got more delegates out of it.
Do you not understand how that works or are you just trying to be argumentative?
I totally understand how it works, but states like Hawaii and DC don't provide any delegates of value. Hillary is still leading in delegates. Delegates still basically follow the popular vote and Hillary is still leading the popular vote overall. Wait a few hours and you'll see that Clinton won more delegates tonight than Obama, increasing her edge. People are going to take notice of that. You can't say Obama has momentum when he continually is outperformed by Hillary.
Yes, Hilary will win more delegates, but Obama will keep it close, and like I said, he is ahead in states with primaries coming up.
- Randall Flagg
- Rep: 139
Re: The Super Tuesday thread
Randall Flagg wrote:I'm waiting on delegate numbers, but I think Clinton will have effectively nullified Obama. While choosing Clinton to be Obama's VP would be of no benefit to Obama, Hillary picking Obama as her VP would do her much good.
I can't think of any well known Republican that would do well with McCain that is feasible. He needs a candidate that applies to the Romney base and not too many of them exist. I just hope McCain stays the course and doesn't get involved with the Jesus Heads. I don't care what people do in their bedroom and we need to keep guys like Jim Bob in business
dude if it didn't totally contradict my profession I would vote republican. In terms of economics, I much prefer the conservative side of things.. but on the social issues I tend to lean more liberal. When I lived in AZ i was registered as a Republican but when I moved to NV I just registered as independent because of what I don't.
I don't see how Republicans necessarily would be against the adult industry. There are certain areas of it that are of concern, but those areas are already illegal. Republicans jerk off just as much as Democrats or anyone else. While Huckabee would certainly pose a concern, I don't see how McCain or possibly even Romney would be able to go after the industry. If it couldn't be stopped in the 70s or 80s, there is nothing to worry about now. Unless you're making snuff films or have a Traci Lords in your midst, I think you're fine.
Re: The Super Tuesday thread
# CNN projects John McCain as big winner among Republicans, taking seven states
# Mike Huckabee projected to take four states; Romney two
# Democrats Clinton and Obama split states, are neck-and-neck in delegate count
# Delegate-rich California still to come; polls close there at 11 p.m. ET
Re: The Super Tuesday thread
I don't see, Randall, how you can say Hilary is outperforming Obama when he was won 8 states outright to her 6. Regardless, it will not be decided after tonight as you suggested.
Bri, you gotta remember that republicans are on their knees begging for Hillary to win. Conservatives are deserting the party in droves, and they know the only way to get them to even consider voting republican is if Hillary is in the general election. Repubs and especially the conservatives hate Hillary. If its an Obama McCain election, Obama wins it in a Reagan-esque landslide.
