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Re: Could the tide be turning
So now there really are curiosity people that didn't like what they heard? Someone said there weren't earlier. That's all...just trying to confirm the existance of those people.
Never said there weren't people who didn't like what they heard... I said no one, at least any real significant number, who were curious about CD would go out to BB and purchase CD. They could have streamed it on MySpace for free. Which is one of the reasons you claimed CD sold as many albums as they did, saying it was curious buyers and a couple hundred forum users who purchased 2 million copies (that number has gone up since).
And I seriously never understood the streaming theory you and James keep talking about. It sold as many albums as there were streams. And as someone pointed out, every streamed album has less listens further down the tracklist.
- Intercourse
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Re: Could the tide be turning
This band will go the way of VR. They sold CD on the basis of curiosity and old loyalties to the GNR name.
That halo is gone now and, like VR, their sophomore effort will sink without a trace unless the lead single is as radio friendly and as loved as SCOM was back in the day.
You can trade insults or score points all you like; VR is the exact same model as nu-GNR, its old GNR with something missing. You already have a nice model to base predictions of sales and fan reactions against.
Plus, don't forget that VR's CB way outsold GNR's CD straight out the gate so if anything there was more love for VR out there back in the day than there was for Axl's experiment.
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Re: Could the tide be turning
I did clarify that I was talking about the 'straight out the gate sales.
VR had to launch a new band, Axl merely had to surf in on old glories.
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Re: Could the tide be turning
VR sold 2.9 million of CD in the States
GNR sold 614,000 copies
Things don't bode well for Axl & Co. if you use VR as the cautionary tale.
- monkeychow
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Re: Could the tide be turning
Libertad also fucked with Contrabands formula though.
Took out most of the rockers, made everything into scott balads...almost no real slash driven songs (except for like Just 16 and Let it roll).
I dug it anyway...but I dont think people disliked it because they gave VR a go with contraband then gave up - i think it as because not only did it not have the GNR stuff they wanted but it wasn't even like the last VR album.
For the record I think it still has some good songs...but yeah..aforementioned tracks excepted it was subpar for a slash album that's for sure.
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Re: Could the tide be turning
not concerned around numbers as they don't matter here. What needs focusing on is public interest which i think will tank for album 2.
They may remian a striong live draw but only for a night out on the beer singing the oldies.
