What "IF" Axl had released a solo album back in 1995

-D-

Indulge me for a moment on this thread, cause I have been thinking here lately, what possibly could've kept GNR together back then.

Part of me will always believe, had Slash's Snakepit album absolutely shit the bed and did terrible.. and Axl had released his own solo album and dominated, We'd have GNR in some form with Slash and Duff till this day.

Example I can give is my other favorite band Bon Jovi. After the New Jersey tour, this band was finished. Seriously it was over. Every one hated everybody, Jon especially since he got all the credit, lion's share of the money etc.

so what happened??? Jon releases Blaze Of Glory solo album, has a monster number 1 single, sells millions of albums by himself.. Richie Sambora's solo album absolutely bombed *although it is very fucking good*

anyhow, Jon's solo success basically showed the band, Get on board or Fuck off in the truest sense, and they have never had another problem since.

If u ever catch the Documentary on Showtime possibly on Youtube now "When We Were beautiful"

starts around 4:30 secs

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continued: Lead Singer Disease thing: first couple mins then picks back up at 3:42 [youtube]fguhyIuo-GM&NR=1[/youtube]
he talks a lot about the Lead Singer syndrome thing that i always found very interesting and wondered if Axl felt the same/similar way.

So, my thought process is, Axl and Slash were sort of fighting for control of the band, Ego vs Ego..... So, if Axl puts out a solo album, like Jon, and absolutely proves without a shadow of a doubt how successful he could be by himself... Slash possibly would've fallen in line.

Now, they will never get back together for the simple fact, Slash has had more success than Axl since the breakup and there is absolutely no way either will give in to the other and admit fault or show weakness.

Sorry, this is damn near more of a blog type entry than something to possibly spur debate.. but just felt compelled to type/ask the question.

Neemo

well snakepit did relatively well if i can recall corectly, but by all accounts it seemed that gnr wouldve moved ahead if axl and duff would've recorded that snakepit material...aparently duff walked out and axl wanted to tinker and slash refused to budge..so he recorded it on his own, it sold decent then as the tour started to gian steam geffen pulled the plug on financing so gnr could write....then thats it nothing ever happened ...fro mwhat i can gather part of the hangup was Slash was on the gilby side of the fence and axl wanted huge, so it went into a big stalemate...then axl had huge overdub slash's stuff on Sympathy for that movie

i think there were much larger forces at work and i dont hink that Axl would've ever recorded somehting outside of the gnr name...might have been more productive if they went the Kiss route and each did an album their own way. or even if they would've held back half of the illusions and spread that out over a few years instead of showing their whole hand....but hey that double relelase made them that big in the first place (IMHO. dont really want to get into that debate again thanks)

ultimately i really do think that the gilby vs tobias incident is what broke the camels back

faldor

You never know, I suppose things could've been patched up if they took some time away from each other amicably. But I've always been of the opinion that GNR had ran its course with the original members. They lived fast. They lived hard, and then it was over.

emcitymisfit

Why is "if" in quotations?

metallex78

I really wish Axl did, he could've gone fucking nuts and explored all sorts of musical nuttyness and found genius through it in his own way.

Instead, he drove everyone away, because he himself had no idea what he wanted from GN'R. He wanted to be Pearl Jam, then NIN, then in the end, he ended up trying to sound like all of that in a mix-mash with UYI style ballads.

monkeychow

Interesting idea...but my understanding is that post snakepit slash did go back to GNR briefly and try to make it work but it just didn't.

Intercourse

there was trouble between Axl and Izzy, Duff Slash, Matt and Gilby at that crucial time. This was way bigger than a Slash thing.

slcpunk

emcitymisfit wrote:

Why is "if" in quotations?

Because somebody else said it silly...

-D-

Anybody see the Duff on Opie and Anthony show interview?

He talked about the Contracts they had to sign giving over the name etc. and how managmeent kinda helped fuck the band... similar to my Bon jovi example.

Good listen:

war

axl couldve released a christmas album in '95 and it would've went platinum overnight. would've it saved the band? who knows for sure - you'd have to ask the band members (slash). i doubt it. their problems with each other go deeper than who's capable of selling more albums as an individual. slash works hard to maintain his name brand where axl does just about nothing and still seems to attract attention when he peeks his head out of his mansion. slash knows this and he has made little attempt to patch things up with axl, knowing it would be bigger than himself if he did.

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