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Re: to clear the air
I dunno where you are all taking my post as a pot shot...
the only post that really pissed me off was Axlin's and i responded in kind...then edited out the really bad parts, i think axlin read it though but whatever his post made me real mad
anyway nothing in my first post is meant as a pot shot to whatever, olorin the orig post as i started it was in response you your lack of interest with watching fan vids these days...and it was that i agree with you, but i was over watchign that kinda stuff years ago...now you seem to be in the same boat as me now in that regard...it meant nothing more than that...like a welcome to the club sort of post... then i started venting and it sprawled into something else...a more over arking type of post ... i have no qualms with anyone...especially u olorin ...you've aklways seemed to be a really cool guy...so if i offended i'm sorry..i never meant to cause offense to you..in fact i think i actually commended you in my post saying that you are more of a fan than me in my eyes cuz i havent really had an interest to follow online fan shot vids...like ever, so to me that says to me that you are more dedicated than i...
send me an email bono, i have no qualms with you either but i'd like to iron this crap out with you for real on not such a public level ... elfmage19@yahoo.ca
thxi dunno why i post i alway seem to get interpretted as some kind of condesending prick
but i never said i was a "normal fan" ... i know way too much about this band and spend way too much time on this board to be even considered healthy..i just dont download or watch/listen to boots near as much as some of you claim...fuck first thing i do every morning is log on and if there was a show the night before i track down the setllist...and post it...hardly "normal fan" beahviour
Well I completely misunderstood your post then, and I read it a few times... but sorry for taking it the wrong way.
I dont think it is clear, but then I am quite tired, but it did seem like an attack on people, myself included... but again I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. I've never had a problem whatsoever with you, I've always thought you were a cool cat and all round good guy 
And for the record I couldnt give a fuck if you were to start getting backstage passes and special privilages from the Shot Girls, and I dont think anyone else would. Seem to remember you met the band backstage in Canada and everyone being genuinally happy for you, you've always been cool with everyone on the boards and thats all I and any other member here cares about.
*edit... Sorry I lied about the Shot Girls, I admit it - I'd be jealous as fuck!
Re: to clear the air
And for the record I couldnt give a fuck if you were to start getting backstage passes and special privilages from the Shot Girls, and I dont think anyone else would. Seem to remember you met the band backstage in Canada and everyone being genuinally happy for you, you've always been cool with everyone on the boards and thats all I and any other member here cares about.
yes i managed to luck into an aftershow pass to london and hamilton in Jan 2010 and met Ron breifly in Hamilton and DJ, Rich, Del and Ron in London ... no shot girls though 
Jarmo did give me one of the shot glasses that Axl passed around on stage after the Hamilton show though 
(hows that for nerdy)
wasnt a party or anything just got to chat with the guys for an hour or so, still was cool to meet them 
but no food or booze or anything crazy...got a couple pics, autographed my CD booklet and got a guitar pick from Bumble
again sorry about the post, i did kinda ramble on in it and its touching on about 3 or 4 things at one time
Re: to clear the air
Neemo got a lot of shit for saying he liked the concert and thought it was good. He wasn't attacking anyone. People were saying his opinion was wrong and he must be deaf. And he never said the performance was great. NEVER. He pointed out the weak points. Over exaggerating once again.
I've never heard Neemo or Russ use the "usual suspects" thing unless people are brining up mindless bullshit just to start an argument.
I said there were some over reactions about Rio, like people saying Axl would never perform again because it was so bad, and Axlin gave me negative karma because that "crossed the line." Heh? Just for that. Very ironic about over reacting.
We all know we can be more respectful around here. No need to tell people to STFU, call them losers, or shit like that. If you can't handle their opinions, ignore them. And I sure as hell know a lot of you hate being labled trolls, but you turn around and accuse others of it.
Sorry, but Ali got ganged up on by those "usual suspects" last night, thread was hijacked, again. And he wasn't saying anything awful. D actually started arguing in the Chile thread about something that happened some other day on some other forum. All because he was LOOKING to argue and start shit. Ridiculous.
Neemo is pretty damn level headed. And yeah, I do think someone should have put their foot down much, much sooner last night about the insults and thread hijacking. But I've never seen Neemo try to discredit any regular posters opinion here, because he disagreed with him. Even though I've annoyed him sometimes with some of my Ron posts
No need for the mudslinging, like Olorin said.
No, don't get it twisted. I couldn't "debate' i never "argue" with Ali over there due to the censorship, but I wanted to address his reply to me and this is the only forum I am able to freely express myself. So I only brought that here to reply to his question, not to "argue"
Re: to clear the air
experiences from a concert (or from anything) dont have to be so black and white...and people that enjoy a show shouldnt get berated cuz they liked it...whether it be Ali, me or whoever...and same the other way...everyone is entitled to their opinion, its a stance we took when we started RoV and its still a mentality that we hold now...
didnt really take too much offense from the back and forth posts it wasnt til the end when i started to feel ganged up on for expressing an opinion. I felt it was a good exchange up to a point but i tried to keep the convo going .... i shoulda left it be and i kept at it prolly shoudlnt have even posted this thread by the look of it...oops thats my big mouth ... the drama is as much my fault as much as anyone elses, i shouldnt have let it get to me ... only got real pissed off when i got started to be accused of shit that just wasnt true, once i was in that state of mind i had to respond cuz it was bugging me..then i stopped talking about it and then Ali and Manets were starting to get the attitude in my place...thats when i posted this thread
i've been told that subtilty and tact are not my strong points 
