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- monkeychow
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Re: Vince Neil Rude to Australian Fans
I guess...Vince Neil is always going to be a touchy subject on a GNR board I guess given his prior beef with Axl anyway...but hear me out.
However, I will say that I enjoy a bit of Motley Crue. It's good party-time music.
I attended Motley's Gig in Melbourne last night...and an after-show apperance from Vince...but I was a little disapointed in his attitude to fans. Here's the story:
There was a meet and greet function organised at a melbourne strip club. The event was promoted with pictures of Vince Neil and fans were told that they could pre-book a VIP package which included entry to the club, and a photo opportunity and signing opportunity with Vince. The club also posters displaying this information prominately.
I would assume Vince was paid an apperance fee for this or a cut of the door money - as he certainly did go to the club and did not appear fussed at the posters of him advertising the meet and greet - which you'd assume he would have been if the event had been organised without his consent.
Motley's gig finished around 11. The strip club is a little outside of the I am bot and is not one of the major well known chains. This ment that most of the punters in the club were actually just normal regulars - people having bucks nights and that kind of thing. In addition to that there was a group of people who paid the VIP fee for vince - we'd all been given special bracelets much like a GA admission bracelet at a gig.
I'd estimate there were maybe 30- 40 people there for the meet and greet and everyone else was just random patrons.
So most fans get there around 11.30 or so after motley's gig finishes and vince arrived around about midnight.
His secuirty staff came over to talk to the people with the bracelets and said words to the effect of:
"Don't worry, you're all going to get your photos and signings, but vince would like to have a couple of drinks to relax a bit first and watch some of the shows, then we'll go out to the private room for your autographs"
Now I 100% understood this. I mean the guy has just walked off stage playing to thousands of people. He's proably on a high. He's at a strip club with dancers doing lesbian shows. Makes sense that he'd want sit down, chat to the ladies, have a few beers, watch the action, just chill out etc. Totally cool with that - I can understand that famous people get asked for pics and stuff a lot - and so you can appriciate he wants to wind down a little first and enjoy the atmosphere not just sit there like a machine signing stuff and so on.
So we wait around. And we wait around for about 2.5 hours. While vince sits there having drinks and chattng to the strippers and so on. Problem was - his securty staff keep coming over and telling us "He's almost ready - just be about another 20 mins" - which ment that most of the people waiting can't really enjoy the strip club either. You don't want to go take a piss, or get a lapdance or have a beer or whatever and then come back and discover the group has moved into a private area for the meet and greet to start and you've missed out. So pretty much the group of us are just waiting around, constantly being reassured that it's almost time for things to start up.
So it gets to about 2.40am...and vince gets up to do the meets and goes into the private area. The 40 of us or so form a line to meet him. A handful of people go in..maybe like 5...and then the security staff come out and say that's it.
Vince doesn't want to meet anyone else.
Now keep in mind these are hardcore motley fans.
They are people with motley crue tattoos. I chatted to a couple who are fans for 20 years and own everything and go to every tour and so on. They are people who have carried their limited edition vinyl albums all day to have it signed. They've come direct from a motley crue show - which it's worth mentioning wasn't cheap at nearly $180 for a floor ticket. They are covered in motley merch that they've bought at the gig. And they've paid an additonal "meet and greet" fee for a photo and signing - and they've now waited for close to 3 hours patiently for it to happen.
So a couple of us go to the club owner and complain that we we've been waiting for 3+ hours, that we bought a meet and greet ticket in advance days ago - and that we were promiced a photo/signing chance both then and all the rest of the night. She is also upset and says that there's nothing she can do other than potentially refund people but even that's going to be a problem as most of us booked on the phone via credit card and so there will be a lot of stuffing around.
She goes in to talk to them. Vince then agrees to meet like 10 more of us - and when I say meet - I mean we were led into the room - allowed to shake his hand and then pushed away before you could even utter a "I love your albums" or something.
No signings were alloud. I asked a handler if it was possible to get a picture taken - even if it's just a photo of me standing near vince as we shake hands and doesn't require him formally posing with me - and was told "Vince is too tired for photos. No cameras".
So i at least got a two second handshake.
The people who didn't complain to managment didn't even get that much. They are just told to go away.
Worse..it's then 3am and the strip club closes so we can't even drown our sorrows and lapdance it out
Now I can understand that it's tough for famous people being hastled all the time for pictures and stuff. But this isn't a group of fans who waited in an airport of by the stage door hoping to get lucky - it's people who were sold a meet and greet ticket.
Furthmore, I can understand that it's got to be punishing doing meets. I mean the guy just did a huge gig. He's probably tired...but this wasn't some situation with an endless line - where you have to cut it off somewhere or it goes forever. It's not like some signing at a record store or shopping centre or whatever with thousands of people. It's like 40 hardcore fans in an obscure out of the way club - moments before the club was shutting it's doors. How long would it relaisticaly have taken to honour his comitment? They could have given us each like a 10 second handshake, snap off a quick photo of it for those with a camera, and sign one item for people that had stuff. I'd guess like maybe half an hour worst case. And they could have rushed it even more.
So my issues:
If you don't want to do a meet and greet why book it.
If you change your mind - it would have been polite to let the people waiting know earlier rather than make them wait to the side for 3+ hours only to cancel the event.
I feel it's disrespectufl to fans the very people who have allowed him to maintain a superstar lifestyle. I'm not saying he owes us stuff, but when it's people there who love you, who pay top dollar for all your products, who you INVITED to attend, who you charged, and who waited for hours for the chance...and its a LIMITED small group and not an endless procession of fans - I feel it's basicly just rude to act like that. I know he is a star and all and I respect that - but I still feel it was pretty inconsiderate.
Especially when this is the group of people who are lifetime fans and who stick with and support the band as they get older and so on. I love their music, but I really felt quite insulted. I didn't expect anything over the top - but I also can't see any reason for the group to have been treated quite that poorly either.
Re: Vince Neil Rude to Australian Fans
Obviously you are right in everything you say.
I met Vince once, I caught him leaving some form of club in Oslo and as I was one of the very few who spotted him leaving, we followed him down to his hotel. There was a little delay at the door, and I managed to sneak in a handshake. He was fine with it and said a polite 'thank you' to my comment on a good show and all of that. I think this was 2005.
Now, six years later, I wonder why on Earth I did that. Why did I shake hands with a slightly chubby rock singer who killed a pal of his in a DUI accident, slapped around a couble of women and had the very same fingers I touched pushed into a million or so pussies since 1978?
I guess my point is, just forget about it. He's not worthy of your time. Neither is anyone else of them. I wouldn't pay to shake hands with any member of Motley Crue, Guns N' Roses or Metallica. In fact, I wouldn't be very interested in meaning any of them unless they had something more to offer me besides an autograph and the regular cliched comments back when I say something nice like "love your albums". Nah, fuck that. I'm not under any of those fuckers on the food-chain.
Maybe I'm arrogant, but I truly don't see the point in being Vince Neil or Axl Roses minion and worshipper of any sort. It just creates bullshit like this and it's not worth mine or your time. Maybe next time people will just forget about the whole thing and let him be with his lesbian strippers because that's what he truly wants.
I could have a discussion with Nikki Sixx, but it would be about books and publishing and not me trying to suck the fuck up to his albums acting all fanboy. No way. Duff would be interesting as well, as he is also a decent writer and I'm sure we could share some tips and tricks on writing.
I 100% agree with Axl Rose about these pay meet and greets. They should just disappear from the face of the planet.
- metallex78
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Re: Vince Neil Rude to Australian Fans
Really sorry to hear you were stuffed around, but fuck man, Vince Neil just confirmed what I already thought of him to be anyway - a complete dick!
He can't sing for shit these days, not that he ever really could live anyway, so those kind of primadonna antics are completely unacceptable.
I'm so glad I didn't see them on this recent tour, I saw them last time they toured with Motorhead opening, and Motorhead blew them off the stage.
- Intercourse
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Re: Vince Neil Rude to Australian Fans
That guys has a trail of death and destruction in his wake and seems to be a well of negative energy..douche No. 1
Re: Vince Neil Rude to Australian Fans
I mother fucking hate Vince Neil
Always have, and this just reaffirms this. I have always thought these Meet & Greet's are bullshit. I'm gonna pay money to be graced with the prescence of some fuckin' asshole that 'got lucky' and fronts a band?
No mother fucker, I just PAID YOU to see YOUR SHOW. How about you PAY ME to meet ME. That's how it works. Until then, shut up and sing and go see plastic dykes on your own time you fat ass Mark Slaughter wannabe.
Re: Vince Neil Rude to Australian Fans
it truely takes someone special to actually take time out for fans and charities etc
I'm sorry it turned out poorly for you monkey .... maybe he was just having a bad day or was feeling worn out, they;ve been on tour for a while now havent they?
Re: Vince Neil Rude to Australian Fans
he's getting paid regardless...what does he care? yeah its a jerk way of doing things but if he decides to say whatever then its gonna be whatever
maybe this is why axl doesnt do this stuff...he knows there will be nights when he's jsut gonna wanna say fuck it
even when i met bumble in hamilton he was only in the room for 15 minutes or so before he left and noone else from the band came down...the next night in london bumble DJ and Richard came out but the rest of the guys didnt feel like it, they are peopel too they cant be happy fan oriented peopel all the time
Re: Vince Neil Rude to Australian Fans
I never want to meet any of my idols or heroes. I am sure the real life experience would destroy my "Fantasy" and would make it hard to appreciate and like them the way I do now.
Was at a Prince after party and i was chilling outside and he walked out of a door maybe 10-15 feet or so from me.. I could've walked over and said hi or this or that.. but he looked over at me with my Prince concert shit on and kinda nodded his head and i did the same and let him be.