Slash: I like to play Roses tunes

Axlin16

Guitars are easy to replace (yes I know, Slash hasn't been replaced, yeah yeah yeah), but the voice of Axl Rose has proven far far far harder to replace for Slash & Duff for that matter.

I just don't dig Myles. I actually think there are far more - better - songs on Slash 2010, that don't feature Myles. Back From Cali is decent, but I think it would've been far better with Chester Bennington or Corey Taylor or Brent Smith, and Starlight is overrated by Slash fans.

I still think Ghost is just fuckin' rockin' beyond all belief. But then again I was always a GN'R & Cult fan, so i'm biased.

misterID

Smoking Guns wrote:

misterID wrote:
Robin and Bucket both got Axl, imo.
Bucket yes... Robin on ballad's, maybe... But neither could truly capture or match Axl's rage and emotion on the guitar, and that is what Slash did well... Weather it be "Its So Easy" or "Coma" or "NR", Slash's guitar always fit the mood perfectly with Axl. Even Brian May said, "I think Axl is still searching for the guitar player to replace Slash"... This was after bucket, robin, tobias were all in the band...

You're comparing it to the old stuff, though. Bucket and Robin ever tried to duplicate the ld GN'R sound. They were from completely different worlds. That's what I dig about Axl; he totally went 180, adopted a new sound and incorporated what they did into "his" sound. And Brian said that because at that time Robin had just left and Axl was really depressed.

That's kind of what I'd wish Slash would do. Find a guy that doesn't sound like anyone else. And why I was psyched about the prospect of Corey fronting VR.

I would love to hear what he and Julian Casablancas or Robert Plant would do together.

Mikkamakka

Guitarists replacable? No. Just try to replace someone in the caliber of Jimmy Page, Brian May, EVH or Slash and you'll understand it. Unfortunately only Axl was crazy and egoist enough to try it. The revolving door shows how easy it is.

Axl doing a 180 turn? Hell no. He only has other people to write music for him. All the songs he wrote are UYI-type ballads that are crying for Slash. BTW Slash as a songwriter shown more diversity than Axl. This I Love, CITR and SoD vs. Obsession, Slither and Beautiful Dangerous etc. Nuff said.

johndivney

Mikkamakka wrote:

BTW Slash as a songwriter shown more diversity than Axl. This I Love, CITR and SoD vs. Obsession, Slither and Beautiful Dangerous etc. Nuff said.

that's balls mate
yea axl loves his balladry but CD is streets ahead in ambition/imagination in songwriting terms than anything any of the other guys have done. compare Better (in any of it's guises) to Slither & it's ridiculous. diversity? the problem with CD is that it has too much scope, every song tries to be a pocket symphony.
CD is so far removed from Contraband & Libertad most notably that i'm amazed to see people say what you've said.
Slash, until the Slash album, was stuck in a the same songwriting rut he'd been in since 5 o'clock - and only one or two times on the Slash album did he do something different and cool.

now on topic, yea props to Slash for playing Civil War when Axl doesn't have the energy or sense to go there. & there are about another twenty stone-cold classics in the catalogue that never get an airing (RNDTH springs to mind straight away)

faldor

While I do agree that most of Chinese Democracy isn't too far off from the UYI's, I don't agree that Slash has pushed the musical boundaries more than Axl over the years. At best, it's even, but I wouldn't even go that far. And honestly I'd say it's not even close. Not that it really matters. Good music, is good music, so who cares? If you like it, that's all that counts. But for arguments sake.

Smoking Guns

Vocalise alone is a huge departure from "typical" Slash...

Also listen to that those Double Talking Jive demo's I posted in the demo area... That is Slash being a pure shredder playing tons of Harmonic Minor licks at warp speed... I truly believe he can do it all... Blues, Jazz, Country, Spanish, Slide, Rock, Metal... And he is so much more of a Rock player than Finck, Bucket, and Bumble combined... He is a real rock player, not a virtuoso or Industrial player trying to play rock. He is authentic ass kicking rock that can also play many different styles. Saint is a Sinner too is another example.. Not to mention songs like Serial Killer, etc.

buzzsaw

I still don't get what is so impressive or progressive about CD. It's different. I'll give you that. I'd call it regressive. I guess it's progressive compared to 1991, but it's regressive compared to 2009 or whatever year it came out.

Intercourse

I still don't get what is so impressive or progressive about CD.

I fully agree. Muse have been releasing big string-laced hard / art rock tunes for nearly a decade now and they are half Axl's age. I don't see what others see as so creative or 'out there' about CD. Its a mish-mash of ideas that the old GNR and people in other bands have in many cases used to greater effect. NIN, Elton John, Muse...you don't actually have to go that far to find where Axl has been doing his borrowing from.

When I first listened to CD I thought..."15 YEARS to create this???"

I rank CD along with Slash's album, I like it alot but it represents a missed opportunity to have done so much better.

That said I would give my left bollock to hear what Axl would have come up with if given 'Watch This' to work on. I think this could have been the sound of a reunion band who were as serious as U2 about being relevant.

Axlin16

Believe or not, even though I fully support Axl as the unreplaceable guy of them all in the band.... I agree CD was regressive. I really dug the album, but unlike GNR's previous works, CD seemed to have to borrow elements from other artists (rather than GN'R just be fuckin' GN'R), plus by the time the album was released - the damn thing was dated.

If it had been released in the 2000-2002 period, I wouldn't have said a single word of that.

Intercourse

CD seemed to have to borrow elements from other artists

I think Axl's wanting to borrow from other current artists started the trouble in GNR. It very rarely works and there are many examples to prove that point. The Crue, Metallica, the Stones etc all tried it for an album and were slaughtered by their fans. More recently Christina Agluera tried to 'go Ga Ga' and has out a stick in the spokes of her career.
U2 got away with it on Actung Baby, but the sheer quality of the tunes helped them with that. They fell at the 'Pop' hurdle though as the drum loops and dance beats and other bells and whistles could not hide the fact that the songs were not fully finished by the band themselves.

The secret seems to be to not be as conservative as AC/DC but not to go too mad either. U2 are about the only band that nearly got it right.

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