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Intercourse
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Re: Amy Winehouse Discussion

Intercourse wrote:

we can all argue about her but I think this is pretty awesome; plus she wrote it.

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misterID
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Re: Amy Winehouse Discussion

misterID wrote:
Axlin08 wrote:
misterID wrote:

No way. She was extremely talented and if not the first, she was one of the best to intwine 50's doowop, 60's R&B/lounge jazz and hip hop. She opened the door for singers like Adel and Duffy. She was original as an artist. I can't really think of anyone in her generation who comes close to her with what she did. I never heard anyone like Amy Whinehouse before.

The cherry tree song was plastic pop garabge, imo. Nothing similar to Amy Whinehouse at all. She was around before then, anyway.

I've personally never said Ga Ga is an amazing talent, only that its foolish to say she isn't talented, even though she's not my thing.

No offense dude, but that is the most moronic statement i've read in here.

Winehouse paved the way for Adele? What the fucking hell?

Winehouse didn't pave the way for anything other than the bumps of coke she took off a small mirror.

Adele paved the way for fucking Adele. Adele has a LEGENDARY voice, that actually IS unique. You tell me one person that has a voice like Adele? Not to mention the fact that only NOW, in 2011 has Adele even broke into the U.S., even though she's been around since 2008. Only NOW did she break into the U.S., five fuckin' years since Winehouse dropped Back To Black.

Winehouse didn't pave a damn thing. If anything she had the road paved for her by artists like Lauryn Hill & Alicia Keys, who they had the road paved for them by generations of black female R&B vocalists, dating all the way back to The Supremes, and Harlem Jazz club singers.

No, you're talking about personal taste. She was out there doing the retro pop before anyone. A lot of artists followed her lead. Not taking anything away from them.

Her sound was nothing like Alicia Keys or Lauren Hill.

Bon Jovi sucks a huge cock. Just pop rock drivel. They don't mean anything. That's my opinion.

Re: Amy Winehouse Discussion

Lomax wrote:

See my problem with this is that now she's gonna be remembered as "that great singer who died to young" rather than "that skanky addict too strung out to record for the past 5 years"

Bon Jovi sucks a huge cock. Just pop rock drivel. They don't mean anything. That's my opinion.

Dude that very statement doesn't mean anything.


If my dog was hit by a car, that would be a fucking Tragedy believe me. Amy Winehouse dying not so much.

She's been committing a very slow form of suicide the past 7 years. I'd write this one up as a suicide, the time scale shouldn't matter. She poisoned herself it killed her. Boo hoo.


THAT SAID, I can appreciate a fine piece of ass when I see one, and back in 03/04 she was a fine piece of ass

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Fine fine piece of ass, in a dirty pornstar kind of way.

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misterID
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Re: Amy Winehouse Discussion

misterID wrote:
Riad wrote:

Bon Jovi sucks a huge cock. Just pop rock drivel. They don't mean anything. That's my opinion.

Dude that very statement doesn't mean anything.

um, yeah. exactly.

Mikkamakka
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Re: Amy Winehouse Discussion

Mikkamakka wrote:
Riad wrote:

See my problem with this is that now she's gonna be remembered as "that great singer who died to young" rather than "that skanky addict too strung out to record for the past 5 years"

Bon Jovi sucks a huge cock. Just pop rock drivel. They don't mean anything. That's my opinion.

Dude that very statement doesn't mean anything.


If my dog was hit by a car, that would be a fucking Tragedy believe me. Amy Winehouse dying not so much.

She's been committing a very slow form of suicide the past 7 years. I'd write this one up as a suicide, the time scale shouldn't matter. She poisoned herself it killed her. Boo hoo.


THAT SAID, I can appreciate a fine piece of ass when I see one, and back in 03/04 she was a fine piece of ass

http://pinakadalisay.i.ph/photo/d/533-1 … OISSES_PMT

Fine fine piece of ass, in a dirty pornstar kind of way.

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“Amy Winehouse died. That’s a lifestyle choice. The 87 who were murdered in Oslo Norway. That’s [effing] tragic.”

(Tommy Lee)

I really liked Amy's voice and albums, although I wasn't a fan. She had a style and sang like very few on Earth. However it was obviously pointing to this. I really feel sorry for her and her death is a huge loss, but she took serious part in this. I wish she'd been stronger.

faldor
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Re: Amy Winehouse Discussion

faldor wrote:
Axlin08 wrote:

No offense dude, but that is the most moronic statement i've read in here.

Winehouse paved the way for Adele? What the fucking hell?

Winehouse didn't pave the way for anything other than the bumps of coke she took off a small mirror.

Adele paved the way for fucking Adele. Adele has a LEGENDARY voice, that actually IS unique. You tell me one person that has a voice like Adele? Not to mention the fact that only NOW, in 2011 has Adele even broke into the U.S., even though she's been around since 2008. Only NOW did she break into the U.S., five fuckin' years since Winehouse dropped Back To Black.

Winehouse didn't pave a damn thing. If anything she had the road paved for her by artists like Lauryn Hill & Alicia Keys, who they had the road paved for them by generations of black female R&B vocalists, dating all the way back to The Supremes, and Harlem Jazz club singers.

Not that wikipedia is the greatest source in the world, BUT.

British singer Adele had credited Winehouse's success in the United States for making her and fellow British singer Duffy's journey to the United States "a bit smoother".[77] American singer Lady Gaga credited Winehouse with paving the way for her rise to the top of the charts. She appeared to be using a metaphorical analogy to explain that Winehouse made it easier for unconventional women to have mainstream pop success.[78] The "Winehouse phenomenon" has been credited by Sebastian Danchin, author of Encyclopedia of Rhythm & Blues and Soul, of kick-starting a revival of soul music that has been ongoing since 2000. Danchin quoting Raphael Saadiq, Anthony Hamilton, and John Legend said "Amy Winehouse was produced by people who wanted to create a marketing coup. The positive side is that it reacquainted an audience with this music and played an introductory role for others. This reinvigorated the genre by overcoming the vintage aspect".[79]

The release of Back to Black and the emergence of Lily Allen has been credited by The Sunday Times as directly creating the market for the media proclaimed "the year of the women" in 2009 which has seen five female artists nominated for the Mercury Prize. After the album was released record companies sought out female artists with a similar sound and fearless and experimental female musicians in general. Adele and Duffy were the second wave of artists with a sound similar to Winehouse's. A third wave of female musicians that has emerged since the album was released are led by VV Brown, Florence and the Machine, La Roux and Little Boots.[80] In February 2010, rapper Jay-Z credited Winehouse with revitalising British music, saying, "There's a strong push coming out of London right now, which is great. It's been coming ever since I guess Amy (Winehouse). I mean always, but I think Amy, this resurgence was ushered in by Amy."[81] In March 2011 the New York Daily News ran an article attributing the continuing wave of British female artists that have been successful in the United States to Winehouse and her absence. Spin magazine music editor Charles Aaron was quoted as saying "Amy Winehouse was the Nirvana moment for all these women," "They can all be traced back to her in terms of attitude, musical styles or fashion". According to Keith Caulfield chart manager for Billboard "Because of Amy, or the lack thereof, the marketplace was able to get singers like Adele and Duffy," "Now those ladies have brought on the new ones, like Eliza Doolittle, Rumer and Ellie."

Axlin16
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Re: Amy Winehouse Discussion

Axlin16 wrote:

They're wrong. Every single one of them.

The only thing I might concede is that Winehouse's rise to the top, revived a form of music to top the charts, which allowed Adele, GaGa & Duffy to find mainstream success with their form of soul/rock/jazz fusion, with record execs taking notice to ride the wave.


She didn't pave the way for them in terms of talent. If they want to thank anyone, GaGa should be thanking Madonna, Adele should be thanking Aretha Franklin & Grace Slade, and Duffy should be thanking some guy named Feldstein who put the money behind her for a huge push.

misterID
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Re: Amy Winehouse Discussion

misterID wrote:

They're wrong, every single one of them. Except they're kind of right 16

Axlin16
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Re: Amy Winehouse Discussion

Axlin16 wrote:

Wikipedia pieces are no different than the opinions we post here. They mean nothing.

I could sign in right now into Wikipedia and delete that whole segment.

faldor
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Re: Amy Winehouse Discussion

faldor wrote:
Axlin08 wrote:

Wikipedia pieces are no different than the opinions we post here. They mean nothing.

I could sign in right now into Wikipedia and delete that whole segment.

That is true, but can you discount the things that Adele, Duffy, Lady Gaga, etc. said?

You're saying they're wrong and they weren't influenced by Winehouse.  Assuming they did say those things, I think they know a little bit better than you about who they were influenced by.

You can argue Amy may have been overrated as an artist, but I've heard dozens of well respected artists speak glowingly of her since her death.  Are they all wrong?

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