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Re: Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement"
That is corporate America...not just the music industry. As for Axl and his lack of business acumen, the end result, even now, is that he has done better financially than 99.9% of the musicians and artists across the planet. Could he have done better? Yes. However, every now and then, we need to put things in perspective. He has made a great living off music.
Maybe, just maybe, Axl being so crazy lead to where he is today (from a financial perspective).....the original band in 1986 without Axl is shite....never gets off the ground. He is and was very unique....give credit every now and then.
Re: Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement"
That is corporate America...not just the music industry. As for Axl and his lack of business acumen, the end result, even now, is that he has done better financially than 99.9% of the musicians and artists across the planet. Could he have done better? Yes. However, every now and then, we need to put things in perspective. He has made a great living off music.
Maybe, just maybe, Axl being so crazy lead to where he is today (from a financial perspective).....the original band in 1986 without Axl is shite....never gets off the ground. He is and was very unique....give credit every now and then.
No argument from me there, but I think that went to his head a long time ago. I'd also make the case that he doesn't get off the ground without them either, and even then they almost didn't get off the ground.
Re: Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement"
Axl is a spoiled brat. And I think he gets off on people thinking that. And I think he likes people thinking he's this weird, complex, egotistical, hair trigger, Howard Hughes type rock star too, tbh.
Nearly every "celeb" I've ever come into contact with has been just as weird and bratty as Axl. The difference is Axl doesn't hide it. But, that's to his detriment, too. And it's really difficult for me to condone or applaud a bunch bullshit just because someone is being "real." But, then again, like Mad says, you got to give the devil his due, sometimes.
All of the above is what helped make him a star.
Re: Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement"
True. But i've also known celebs (the big ones), to be far more down to earth and regular people than most think they are.
It's the 'non-celebs' who are fucking dicks. It's not the Axl Rose's... it's the Taime Downe's. It's the fucking Real Housewives of who gives fuck. It's the Perez Hilton's, not the Paris Hilton's.
Check that fuckin' ego at the door jack. I've got a lawyer on speed dial too after I fuck you up.
And btw Mister, I agree that Axl gets off on that image. I also think he purposely waits 'til near riot proportions before coming on and playing Jungle. He waits to just at that moment. I've swore for years he sits backstage for 3 hours just waiting to piss people off, and have them swallow instantly as soon as he hits the stage.
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Re: Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement"
Yeah it is the same art as in 2010.
But that said...I thought at the time it's the coolest artwork GNR's used in a while..the skull and rose thing is badass...makes me want a tatt 
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Re: Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement"
buzzsaw wrote:It's Axl's way or it doesn't happen.
True...but then the music business is full of predators. I don't doubt that there's a lot of folks waiting to screw over any band, so if you've got to Axl's position there's probably a certain security in having specific requirements.
Also I'm pretty sure most bands have someone that calls the shots. Can't see metallica doing a lot of stuff that lars was against, or megadeth doing anything dave didn't wanna do long term.
In some ways I view Axl's power bid for control of GNR as a way to obtain some security over an unstable situation. Axl must know that he has a temper that gets him into problem , and he knew the other partners in the business had serious substance abuse problems, and he knew that many in the industry will screw you as soon as look at you, and that sucess in music is often temporary anyway. Add those things together and it's a volatile situation. So as much as ethically and creatively him taking control is kinda a dick move as everyone in old GNR had a hand in generating that success, I can also totally also see how in his situation its also kinda a common sense and self preservation move. So these days he gets to be CEO of the GNR machine....and I see it more as about survival and limiting the unknown than about being a brat...but that's just my persepective.
Yeah, if there is a band, there is a leader, at least to some degree. As Axl explained it, if you have a car with your friends, then only one can have the wheel, or you'll get off the cliff. But. The problem is with GN'R that the driver drives the car off the cliff again and again, or he doesn't even wanna do anything with it - he's talking about huge plans, winning races etc, but the truth is the car is rusting in a parking lot.
Axl got this total leadership idea from Mick Jagger, but the difference is that Jagger is a down-to-earth accountant and Axl is a bipolar, bitter spoilt child. In this case it'd have been better if Steven Adler got the wheel.
Re: Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement"
axl's admiration of jagger's organisation never sat quite right with me
it was like axl forgot about all the CRAP records the stones put out after jagger seized control/keef slipped deep into his addictions
with axl taking on all the power there was an automatic compromise between in the quality (& quantity) of material & the bizness stuff he had to wade through.
