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Re: MyGNR closing for business
I personally don't give a toss. I like the folks here, even the ones I don't agree with. The standards at some of those other places is shocking.
If I was Axl I'd be a fucking recluse too.
Re: MyGNR closing for business
CHINESEDEMOCRACY.COM IS BEING SHUT DOWN
Dear members,
It has been a fun 10 years. but my anus hurts as I live in Athens Greece since 2006, I am dead broke and have dept. but since Axl sucks I will not change my fucking mind about closing this site. The $$ is too fucking unbearable and since I have no creative skill and practice the ethics of a leech I am shuting down.
Sure we don't have the google ad placement as others do. but somehow within an IT infrastructure that is based on the needs of a server I was able to go from a dedicated server $160 a month to a semi-dedicated managed server for $80 to host not only this forum but the GNR tracker that has about 5000 active members. This server also hosts many other projects and websites for people. For a long while I even had gnrontour.com on it and that site had lots of traffic. Sure I paid out of my pocket a lot and I do the coding myself now for the sites (he don't) and with the help from the Tracker Community as we give them a great service.... donations do help and from few friends at cd dot com related.
but I am a filthy stinkin' un-loyal piece of French Canadian sloth poop bowl that was always in it for the gold.
Therefore... I will be closing C D and if this really doesn't scare you.. then .. then I'm closing the tracker too. I mean it.
I really mean it.... don't offer me 10k for the forum.... and don't offer me to pay the hosting. at least not for less than $200 a month. maybe some amazon gifts?
Thank you and Blame Axl,
BP
http://www.chinesedemocracy.com/forum/i … 6.105.html
Seems there is some love between the forums
I've never liked that BP guy and his patters always been shite and his forum even more shite. He's just as bad as jarmo for selling out and toeing the company line, mabye even worse, his fawning over Fernando and making him "SuperMod" or some shit when Axl came was hilarious 
Didnt it come out around 2005/6 that HTGTH had ties or even being funded by Universal?? I definently remember something like that happening.
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Re: MyGNR closing for business
Some of it is natural I think too.
Like, imagine you meet Axl, you have a beer with Fernando one night - and suddenly these are like real people in your life - they arn't just words in a magazine, or snippits on TMZ or whatever. Or in the case of the Axl/band - you've actually talked to people who write and play your favourite songs.
I think there's a natural feeling when you meet people in real not to talk as much shit about them. Once you see they are human - are you really going to go home log on and start asking about their private lives as much.
So in a way you can see it that Jarmo etc is paid off with Access to the band...but in another way - it's probably the access to the band that makes him not want to talk shit about them - as he sees them as actual people he knows and not just a hobby.
That said, I myself don't post as HTGTH anymore (well very occasionally) as I'm a fan of the old and the new band - and I felt there was an atmosphere there that to enjoy modern GNR you have to hate slash etc...and I honestly like both.
On a semi-related note: Is it expensive to run this site? I never really thought about it - but I should be more grateful to whoever keeps this place running.
Re: MyGNR closing for business
Sounds like forum wars have got pretty dirty in the past. This is the first time I have ever heard of the Lori Lepper saga. Anyone else hear of this before. The poor girl was eventually murdered:
http://www.gunsnfnroses.com/index.php?/ … s-closing/
Anyone know what Eric's side of the Lori Lepper thing is???
most people forgot and don't know about it and I have been thinking about it a lot lately. As you know she was murdered in her home ..... never was caught. Eric despised her because she made a fan website and then Duff make her site official site for Duff and Loaded. Eric out of jealousy (what out is there) .. copied her site using an engine and then put a /loaded of his mygnr site. Duff and Lori told Eric to back down as it was simply creepy and crazy and not approved by Duff and content was code that she made and pics that duff gave her. He took it code from code. Finally Duff didn't push lawsuit on Eric because ... well you know ... didn't want to look like a bad guy .... so lori rebuilt a whole new site. and Eric continued at the time to front the site as official to Google. Lori came on my forum many times explaining how Eric robbed her.
Lori and I were great friends, I then built Duff's forum myself and Lori and I went into a business arrangement trying to get other clients. She was then murdered .... by maybe somebody who was some sort of GNR fan. Seems the killer even sat down and had a drink in her apartment. after she was dead killer I think surfed her website. hmm I always have that in the back of my mind.
Re: MyGNR closing for business
Some of it is natural I think too.
Like, imagine you meet Axl, you have a beer with Fernando one night - and suddenly these are like real people in your life - they arn't just words in a magazine, or snippits on TMZ or whatever. Or in the case of the Axl/band - you've actually talked to people who write and play your favourite songs.
I think there's a natural feeling when you meet people in real not to talk as much shit about them. Once you see they are human - are you really going to go home log on and start asking about their private lives as much.
So in a way you can see it that Jarmo etc is paid off with Access to the band...but in another way - it's probably the access to the band that makes him not want to talk shit about them - as he sees them as actual people he knows and not just a hobby.
That said, I myself don't post as HTGTH anymore (well very occasionally) as I'm a fan of the old and the new band - and I felt there was an atmosphere there that to enjoy modern GNR you have to hate slash etc...and I honestly like both.
On a semi-related note: Is it expensive to run this site? I never really thought about it - but I should be more grateful to whoever keeps this place running.
Well said. I agree that the humanization of these guys upon meeting them makes it less likely, or may make most people, less inclined to talk shit about them. At least, I would hope that would be the case.
Ali
Re: MyGNR closing for business
Sounds like forum wars have got pretty dirty in the past. This is the first time I have ever heard of the Lori Lepper saga. Anyone else hear of this before. The poor girl was eventually murdered:
http://www.gunsnfnroses.com/index.php?/ … s-closing/
Anyone know what Eric's side of the Lori Lepper thing is???
most people forgot and don't know about it and I have been thinking about it a lot lately. As you know she was murdered in her home ..... never was caught. Eric despised her because she made a fan website and then Duff make her site official site for Duff and Loaded. Eric out of jealousy (what out is there) .. copied her site using an engine and then put a /loaded of his mygnr site. Duff and Lori told Eric to back down as it was simply creepy and crazy and not approved by Duff and content was code that she made and pics that duff gave her. He took it code from code. Finally Duff didn't push lawsuit on Eric because ... well you know ... didn't want to look like a bad guy .... so lori rebuilt a whole new site. and Eric continued at the time to front the site as official to Google. Lori came on my forum many times explaining how Eric robbed her.
Lori and I were great friends, I then built Duff's forum myself and Lori and I went into a business arrangement trying to get other clients. She was then murdered .... by maybe somebody who was some sort of GNR fan. Seems the killer even sat down and had a drink in her apartment. after she was dead killer I think surfed her website. hmm I always have that in the back of my mind.
Wow, that's going way back into the forum days when Lori was murdered.
That was a big deal at the time.
Duff even went on America's Most Wanted to talk to John Walsh about it, and they mentioned her being on the GN'R web stuff and how big of a fan of Guns N' Roses she was.
As far as I know, her murder is still unsolved.
Re: MyGNR closing for business
Posted by the mod "UK Subs" at mygnr (he was the one that was negotiating to buy the forum from Eric).
http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?sho … 523&st=225
Eric responded to a poster:
admin, on 19 April 2011 - 11:12 PM, said:
Black Sabbath, on 19 April 2011 - 11:06 PM, said:
Now I'm confused.So, is Subsy taking over or not?
No he is not. Gun was jumped on that one. I know intentions were good, and appreciated, though.
UK Subs Wrote
Gun was jumped on that one
Erm..........No, that's not what happened now though is it. Oh and before you or any of the mods hit the panic button, I would suggest you read the whole post and see if anything I say breaks any of the forum rules. The answer is no, obviously, so it will be interesting to see if this gets deleted/moved, etc. Mind, I would strongly urge that it doesn't.
Eric, I will not disclose any specific quotes from our conversation via emails and PM's - I will not ever disclose the purchase price, nor the monthly fees. I have morals and dignity and I would not do that to you. Wether or not you deserve such respect is, in my opinion at least, highly subjective. Maybe we should leave that decision to our forum members?"Jumping the gun" - I'll start here I think.
You post a thread in the newswire telling everyone that the forum is closing in 24 hours time. Just so everyone is aware, this was the first I was hearing this news - No update in the mod section. Well, in your defense it's your forum you can do what you want I guess? I contact you and ask could I either help support the monthly fees/part fund the forum for a partnership as admin with you and you were clear. It wasn't the money and you would not consider me part funding and completely dismissed the opportunity for me to pay any fees towards the forum - which of course is strange because we now have learned that you have now accepted this offer from - wait for it, not someone who's been on this forum for over 7 years and had put huge amounts of effort and support into the place, not to mention my own donation(s) around 4 years ago - but from a "anonymous" person. Brilliant! You couldn't make this up, oh wait a minute, unless? No forget it, doesn't matter..
You then invite a bid to buy the forum, whilst you didn't specifically give me a figure you were looking for, you were kind enough to give me a figure for 'a similar venture' - So, a day or so later I offer a purchase price and a day later you accept. I also agree to pay all monthly server costs, licenses, etc, etc, the whole lot. Now here's the important part, at absolutely no stage did you ever indicate that you need either further thinking time or that you were open to other offers. It was just 'I accept your offer' - To further cement my strong security of your intentions it was made specifically clear to me that unless GNR bought the forum 'the next person I would only want to sell it would be you' - So, if I give you an offer and you accept and you only want to sell it to me, I think it's fair to say that was more than a decent and solid verbal agreement, no?
At no stage did you ever give me the view (either expressly, or even by suggestion) that you were considering my offer or that you needed time to think, or that you were considering other offers - That would have made perfect sense to me if you had done so by the way, I would have completely understood (and wouldn't be writing this post right now),that was until a few hours before you formally announced on the forum that the forum was no longer closing down and that an anonymous person had stepped forward to pay the monthly fees. I asked for 10 hours to finally put a few things into consideration before organising payment to you - One of which was to declare to our members that someone, who I later confirmed to be me, was prepared to keep the place running but we needed donations to see if the forum was going to be sustainable long term. I fully expected to loose money but I wanted to make sure I wasn't going to loose a significant amount and frankly given my offer of support to you and our forum members, I don't think that was an unreasonable request. You weren't keen but when I stated to you that without this insurance then the deal was going to be off, you quickly agreed to allow it to be posted. Another example, if needed, to show how keen you were on the deal (a deal, which never changed direction at all).
Of course I know now that by posting that thread it actually did me more harm than good - You became aware of the generous donation amounts posted publicly and this (at least in my honest opinion) 'turned your head'.
I was not free from guilt myself of course, I must at least admit that (you see, integrity actually means something to me). I did get excited and passionate at the thought of taking the forum over - I saw an exiting opportunity to change this forum positively for the better; More transparency, some exiting options for our 'supporters' (particular given their generous donations to keep the forum alive). With my un-named co-admin, we were coming up with some new and inventive ideas and through it all, I was determined that not only would I publicly inform members if I was "earning more than $1usd per month" and therefore asking them to STOP donating. If the site was going to turn profitable in the long terms, I would have paid members back their donations (largest to smallest in priority order). Again, honesty and transparency was the key strategy for me - The driver and motivation was the forum, our members, the band (new and old), would have finally put a stop to the bickering. So yes, I posted passionately on the forum and even then Eric, I stated in every single post I made was made up of the following statements:
"It's not confirmed yet"
"I'm waiting on Eric"
"I have not taken over yet"
"Offer accepted, waiting for confirmation"So, how do you think I feel when I read I had "jumped the gun"? Well, that's now for our forum members to decide I suppose, right? I'm not perfect for certain and I respect every view good or bad and if any anyone agrees with the way you handled this situation, then I respect that view.
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I know intentions were good, and appreciated..
Oh it's appreciated? Really? because that's news to me - You never once had a basic decency to thank me for the offer of keeping the forum alive (or least trying to do so). I don't know who this other person is (if indeed there actually is another person)? You haven't got back in touch with me since telling me the deal was on hold, so I apologise if this very public expression has upset you but you know what Eric, I did everything by the book in complete privacy (even when questioned by certain mods) and I still get screwed, so....?
There are two pieces of good news for you though! If you don't alter or try to defend this post, this will be my only post on this subject, both publicly and privately. Try to censor, burry, or defend your actions will result in further shit storms and potential further revelations - Your choice? Tick tock Eric, the karma clock is ticking!
Oh, the second is please accept this as formal notice of stepping down as a moderator on mygnrforum.
Mods and members thanks:Far too many to mention, it's only right I thank Eric for the opportunity to post on this forum - That said, it was really madison that promoted me, whilst building up a firm relationship with her - That's another subject right there.
High', monty, zint and ER - Thank you guys so much. Don't want anyone to follow, just be happy and do what you're comfortable with.
God, received over X150 PM's and emails this week with so much support, thank you so much!! I did reply to every single one, personally and I promise I didn't copy and paste a single one!Difficult to single any out but I guess, PM's which were particularly supportive were from: Spoon, Black Sabbath (who I never spoke to before this week!), Username, Mysteron, ron mexico, Leddy and so so many more - really touched, thanks again!
Finally (and I know this sounds desperate and slightly explotatious but still); in a week where I feel badly done to, reality kicks in as I continue to care for two sick parents. If you can find it in your heart to donate to the following charity: http://www.teessidehospice.org/ you'd be doing me a HUGE favour - They do such a FANTASTIC job!!! Alternatively, please sponsor or donate to your local cancer charity at home, perhaps? If nothing else, just click on the Website and read what an amazing job they do, please.
Thank you for reading, it was from the heart.
Subsy.
Re: MyGNR closing for business
To further cement my strong security of your intentions it was made specifically clear to me that unless GNR bought the forum 'the next person I would only want to sell it would be you'
So he wanted to sell out balls deep and it was really the only objective in this fiasco. Despicable.
