Great Axl & Kurt article

misterID

http://www.avclub.com/articles/part-2-1 … way,46507/

Great read.

I always saw Kurt as a guy who liked to manipulate the press/fans to perpetuate his own carefully constructed image and he used Axl to help do it. This article pretty much nails the 2 pretty good.

Yeah, Kurt was a HUGE hypocrite, liar and could be a HUGE jerk himself. But he's probably one of the most talented guy's in music ever. In Utero is in my top 5 albums.

Axl S

It's a great series of articles about rock music in the 90s. A great read.

dave-gnfnr

misterID wrote:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/part-2-1 … way,46507/
Great read.
I always saw Kurt as a guy who liked to manipulate the press/fans to perpetuate his own carefully constructed image and he used Axl to help do it. This article pretty much nails the 2 pretty good.
Yeah, Kurt was a HUGE hypocrite, liar and could be a HUGE jerk himself. But he's probably one of the most talented guy's in music ever. In Utero is in my top 5 albums.

Cobain is one of the most overrated people in music ever. He was not a very good singer, he could barely play the guitar and his lyrics were jibberish. And I always find i amusing nirvana is always hailed as the best grunge and biggest grunge group when pearl jam were always bigger, better and more talented than nirvana. Its only because Cobain offed himself do people hold him in such high regard.

I always laugh when i see Kurt Cobain near the top of best guitar players ever over people like eddie van halen, slash, steven vai etc etc.

That being said, 1991 is probably the best year for music albums in the history of music, I am not sure of another year (in my life team anyways) that one year had so many great albums.

ppp

I often wonder what Kurt's legacy would be if he had lived. I highly doubt he could have made it in today's PC society. If people can't handle Kanye saying Taylor Swift doesn't deserve an award, they'd have never been able to handle Kurt's opinion of her.

RussTCB

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misterID

"If Kurt Cobain hadn’t killed himself, he would have most likely put out a mediocre record by now and wouldn’t be the icon that he is."

Trent Reznor

johndivney

i think if he hadda survived, nirvana's popularity would have ebbed & flowed & eventually got to the stage where cobain found some kind of comfort and compromise (even if it meant hiding out n laying low for a number of years like axl).
eventually he'd have created a(nother) blues-based masterpiece. imo his future lay in stuff like Dumb & more specifically All Apologies. i think the biggest waste of talent/potential in rock isn't actually jimi but kurt. his outrageous songwriting talent was only getting better as he got older & there is a vast collection of great songs we'll never get cause he blew his brains out.

In Utero would probably be in my top 5 of all time. certainly top 10-15.
amazing vocalist, the guy used feedback better than ANY other guitarist & the pictures he painted with his lyrics are as detailed and majestic as only the greatest (folk) singer songwriters - dylan/young.

the media & kurts manipulation/use of the media certainly did axl no favours - but at the time axl wasn't doing his own cred good either: blowing obscene budgets on promos/after-gig parties, causing riots.. it woulda been a lot harder for kurt to come out n say, "y'know give axl a break he's p fucked up" of course he's gonna say "axl's an idiot" 'cause most people (& still do) thought that..
there defo are similarities between the two that get forgotten about in the race to contrast them.. they are two fucked-up trailer trash kids who turned out some of the most amazing rock songs ever.
kurt defo has cooler influences tho - i mean he's uber hip growing up with Black Flag/Bad Brains/SY/Pixies whereas Axl is kinda lumbered with 70's pretentious classic rock & 80's hair metal like Elton John/ELO/RATT..

tejastech08

russtcb wrote:

By the end of 1991, I chose Kurt Cobain over Axl Rose because I wanted someone who did know the difference between right and wrong.
Right. Because doing ridiculous amounts of heroin and eventually blowing your head off is right.

You forgot the most important part of it: leaving a child fatherless with a crazy mother. It was an extremely selfish act on his part.

tejastech08

johndivney wrote:

kurt defo has cooler influences tho - i mean he's uber hip growing up with Black Flag/Bad Brains/SY/Pixies whereas Axl is kinda lumbered with 70's pretentious classic rock & 80's hair metal like Elton John/ELO/RATT..

"Hip" does not mean better. Zeppelin kicks the shit out of the Pixies and any of the other "hip" groups you care to name, including Nirvana.

Neemo

the axl vs kurt feud really wasnt that big in 1992 from what i can remember...its seems to have become larger than it really was IMO

Was a huge fan of both bands....still am, nirvana was my favorite of the grunge bands easily....gimme some nirvana any day of the week over PJ

dude is a bit bitter over OIAM huh?...I dunno how a song from 1988 has any relevance to an article about 1992 hmm but its been done to death so i'm not even gonna get into my interpretation of the song

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