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- tejastech08
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Re: *RUMOR* Possible GnR one-off reunion for Superbowl XLVI?
I just watched a special on VH1 Classic about Pink Floyd. Talked about Live Aid, in which Gilmore was contacted to play for 20 minutes... He said "no". Then they went to Waters, he said "yes", so they called Gilmore back, and before you know it, he caved and did it. That was magic. A couple years later one of the members died. But they did at least have one final show and if they never play again together, they ended on a positive note.
Floyd at Live 8 was possibly the best live rock performance ever. Gilmour still has amazing chops both on vocals and guitar. They absolutely knocked it out of the park.
- Smoking Guns
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Re: *RUMOR* Possible GnR one-off reunion for Superbowl XLVI?
AC/DC, Stones, U2, etc, all prove great rock bands are still in high demand. If they reunited and actually showed up with no riots, this would be one of the biggest tours of all time. Let Slash and Duff handle the promo and hype (since we know Axl won't). Slash has promo'd the shit out of his album, he would do the same for a GNR tour, and since most people in America side with "nice guy" Slash he should be the voice when amping the reunion up. Axl is a polarizing figure that is loved when performing, and that is about it. I mean even Ozzy is touring strong, GNR would be a huge success.
- Smoking Guns
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Smoking Guns wrote:I just watched a special on VH1 Classic about Pink Floyd. Talked about Live Aid, in which Gilmore was contacted to play for 20 minutes... He said "no". Then they went to Waters, he said "yes", so they called Gilmore back, and before you know it, he caved and did it. That was magic. A couple years later one of the members died. But they did at least have one final show and if they never play again together, they ended on a positive note.
Floyd at Live 8 was possibly the best live rock performance ever. Gilmour still has amazing chops both on vocals and guitar. They absolutely knocked it out of the park.
Shit, I am idiot, I meant Live 8, not Live Aid, but yes, he was fantastic (Gilmore). His tone and passion is amazing. I could Imagine GNR knocking it out of the park too... Axl would be on his "A" game to show Slash who the man was, Slash would be on his "A" game to show Axl who the man was. Steven would be so pumped he wouldn't let anything fuck this up. Pink Floyd bitterness rivals the Axl bitterness towards Slash. This needs to happen, at some point.
- monkeychow
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Re: *RUMOR* Possible GnR one-off reunion for Superbowl XLVI?
If Axl was in it for artistic integrity, he wouldn't be touring as gnr.
It could be seen that way. But then lets not discount that Axl has a fairly unique view point on things - he's always interpretated words in a very precise manner - it's often why he takes issue with reporters and the media IMO etc. Anyway he explained in the chats that the name seemed to fit for him, that it seemed right.
Now i can see why to fans we might see GNR as 5 guys, but maybe to Axl it's a name that signifies the struggle or something. Who knows I mean he could be wrong about it that's for sure...but it doesn't mean he's motivated by the money necessarily...it could easily be he's motivated by his own opinion that it's just and right for him to use the name.
I said it a while ago and I'll say it again: CD2 is Libertad no matter how good it is. Axl had one shot and he blew it. His only chance now is a reunion.
Well aside from the fact that I enjoy both those albums you've listed...I think it depends on what his goal is.
If his goal was to recapture UYI level success and become as big as the modern pop sensations then you may well be right.
But i'm not sure that is his aim. Maybe he wants to put out music in the styles that interest him these days (with synths, and with layers and so on), according to his own timeline when he feels happy enough with them to move on, and earn enough money to support his lifestyle by playing his classic hits on working holidays every few years.
I mean back in the day the guy experienced a level of fame and attention most people would never know, and while i'm sure it had it's perks, there's a lot to suggest he didn't like it as well, - i mean he did go underground for a decade or so. There's nothing to suggest he'd want to go back there.
Maybe he just wants to keep earning enough using the name to support himself and his loved ones well into his old age (who wouldn't) and he can treat music like a hobby rather than a job - and just share his music sometimes on occasion. I'm not saying that is the case, but there's also nothing to say it isn't right now.
This idea that he had one shot and blew it is false. Firstly, you get more than one shot if you've been famous in the past. Commerical life pretty much resets every few years, so like all he'd have to do is go silent for a period then return with something new and actually work the media and he'd be forgiven. Look at what happened with MJ comming out to promote "This is IT" before his death. He was back and the centre of attention and it was all positive - even though there'd been all the decades of wierdness and allegations and all that. I think Axl would always be painted as an excentric of some kind, and they'd make throw away lines to his past antics, but if he came back with the goods he could be forgiven. But secondly, and more importantly, the blown shot anaolgy assumes he wanted superstardom again....and there's nothing to say he does.
- tejastech08
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Re: *RUMOR* Possible GnR one-off reunion for Superbowl XLVI?
We'll see. It took from 1985 to 2005 to get Pink Floyd to play 20 minutes of music together.
And I think regardless of what people say about that relationship, it's hard to imagine it being worse than the situation with GN'R. It's not just that one guy is extremely pissed at another, it's that he happens to be a bit psychotic. Axl has serious mental issues IMHO. It's not the same as two guys going on some ego trip. He has it in his head that Slash is the devil and I don't think that will ever change.
Re: *RUMOR* Possible GnR one-off reunion for Superbowl XLVI?
I like Libertad more than Contraband, and I know a lot of people like CD a lot. I wasn't comparing CDII to Libertad musically, I was comparing them from a level of interest. Contraband and CD sold based purely on interest. People know what to expect. The follow up will not be given a chance by most people even if it's the greatest album ever made. Axl is no MJ other than they are both a little nuts.
- monkeychow
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Re: *RUMOR* Possible GnR one-off reunion for Superbowl XLVI?
Axl is no MJ other than they are both a little nuts.
I dunno I think it's quite similar in a lot of ways.
I'm not saying they're exactly the same.
But I mean MJ had undeniable musical/dancing/showman ship ability and it made him into an absolute superstar.
However, then music tastes moved on somewhat, and meanwhile his excentric antics got progressively wierder each year, despite his talent his look became the butt of jokes, he was thought of as a bit of a wierdo - and then accused of a bunch of stuff that made many people think he was pretty much the one thing 99% of the planet hates most - pedophiles.
Then you have Axl.
He has undeniable talent in the rock field. Great frontman, distinctive unique and powerful voice, and helped write a few classics with undeniable long term value - like Sweet Child of Mine. He became a huge star back in the day.
However, musical tastes moved away a little from the UYI style huge production and big video clips, he's the butt of some people's jokes visually, either due to his dress sence/hair (when he was wearing gangster stuff) or his weight these days, and he's now considered by many to be a bit of a wierdo - going underground for years, history of violent outbursts etc - and a lot of people think of him as an asshole for his antics.
When push came to shove, there were comments about MJ being wierd - but people still new he was talented - and could forgive that stuff - even the claims of child abuse - when it was time for a comeback.
I think it's the same with Axl - he's always going to be considered abnormal and people are going to make smart ass remarks about him and shit - but when push comes to shove - if he comes up with more good music he can be forgiven.
I mean obviously MJ was at an even greater level of exposure than Axl originally...but I think the music world is fickle. They'll turn on you just as fast as they love you. But when they feel like it, they'll also forgive anything.
Re: *RUMOR* Possible GnR one-off reunion for Superbowl XLVI?
I like Michael, but Axl has more talent as an "artist".
"If Axl was in it for artistic integrity, he wouldn't be touring as gnr."
Buzz, I agree with this, and it disappoints the hell out of me. I really wish he would have left the Gnr thing alone and immediately went solo or started a new band. Maynard from Tool does it just right. He has his solo side project Puscifer...then another cool but different rock band A Perfect Circle..then he has his big kahuna Tool. He gets to express himself in multiple ways as an artist while keeping his bread and butter, money maker "pure" in the eyes of his largest hard core audience.
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The difference is Axl has always seen himself as an artist and GNR as the same thing. I think Slash once asked him why he didn't do a solo project and Axl said GNR was his solo project. He identifies himself with Guns N' Roses. I'm not going to fault the guy for that one bit.
Axl has never been Phil Anselmo.
