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Re: Guns n Roses in Studio 2011
Nature Boy........fuckin love it. Jacksonville Florida 1986....drunk as hell walking in to the Georgia-Florida football game....World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party....Nature Boy gets out of a limo. Everybody I was with yelled "WOOOOOOO". Awesome.....Merry New Year James, Neemo and the staff.. 
- monkeychow
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How many of them could name a single person in the band?
Take Axl out, and how many could they name? You said your band isn't famous. If Axl fired the band (not out of the realm of possibility) and hired your band to be GnR (maybe out of the realm of possibility, but you never know), are you suddenly famous or do people just know the name of your new band?
Ahh..ok...I think I misunderstood your point originally then.
If you mean the band, as in the dudes without Axl, arn't famous, then that makes more sense. I thought you were saying the band, as in the entity of Guns N Roses, isn't famous. Cos the original post was that GNR was goind to record a session at this coke studio show or whatever. Now I accept that GNR doesn't have the fame or name recgonition it did in the 1990s, but I was just saying that as a brand or whatever it's still got some power behind it. I guess what you are saying is that the 'new' guys arn't the guys who established that fame and that the article didn't mention that. Can't argue with those facts.
As for the relative fame of the band as individuals, I agree and disagree. I agree that most regular punters probably can't name anyone except Axl. But I also think that being in GNR does actually suddenly make a guy famous to an extent. Would DJ be asked to play the anthum if he wasn't in GNR? Maybe Sixx Am would have given him the exposure but who knows. I'm sure buckhead and bumble's solo stuff would have got more exposure from being in GNR too. I think many of us here wouldn't even know of these guys if they'd never been in GNR, now we do...and so they've become famous. Not mob on the street famous...but they arn't garage players either.
So I dunno, if Axl puts me in the band and my guys in the band and calls it GNR, i'd say that sort of would make me famous. Cos I can refer to myself as a GNR guitarist when I make any kind of public apperance, i'd probably get gear endorsments, I imagine it's possible to get groupie action if someone is that way inclinded, and i'm sure i'd get an aditional couple of thousand facebook friends 
It wouldn't give me the image recgonition and branding of someone like slash or a founding member of another band perhaps, but it would give me a certain extent of fame and it's priviliages that I don't currently enjoy!
- monkeychow
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For the record I think Axl should make me lead guitarist in GNR, it would create a new level of hatred and anger among the fanbase as I fucked up every solo...then he could go back to the current dudes...and you'd all respect their abilities a lot more 
- emcitymisfit
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For the record I think Axl should make me lead guitarist in GNR, it would create a new level of hatred and anger among the fanbase as I fucked up every solo...then he could go back to the current dudes...and you'd all respect their abilities a lot more
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The difference between Axl and those crap bands being mentioned is that Axl has talent playing with him.....a lot of talent. Whether he chooses to use it or not is the real question.
Not Whitesnake. Ever heard of Doug Aldrich? He crushes every single guitarist currently in GN'R.
I'd just like to jump in here and say that the fire during a Great White gig happened at "The Station" in Rhode Island.
Now that I got the important stuff out of the way. Nice to see Axlin bringing back the "GNR is no different than Faster Pussycat" mantra. I thought he retired that a long time ago. At least with your explanation you made some sense saying that they all only have their original lead singer with a totally different backing band. I don't know if that's true or not, I'll take your word for it. I know Whitesnake has constantly changing lineups. But honestly, that is the ONLY thing GNR has in common with those bands. As poorly as GNR's recent US tours may have gone, those bands couldn't fill clubs in the cities that GNR was playing to 5,000+ on a nightly basis. So I still don't get your argument. You go WAY overboard with that one to try and prove a point and your point is completely lost to most, if not all of us. Sorry, it's just an insane argument.
My point is, Axl's credibility is on the same wavelength as those bands, because he's doing what he's doing with GN'R. In alot of ways, those other bands have surpassed Axl in credibility, because being casual audiences had virtually no identification with the players in those bands outside of their lead singers, almost all of the "minimal" audiences those artists have have no clue they are not seeing the original band.
GNR's extensive popularity in comparison to those artists actually hurt it more in the long run than those other artists because fans are so passionate towards the old GN'R, that Axl will always been running hard against Gunners because he's touring with a fake band that will NEVER be accepted as GN'R under the best circumstances, not to mention the shit he gets from the record company and radio for not having the real GN'R in toe.
Either way it's the same thing. Axl doesn't deserve special treatment when he's doing the exact same thing as those hair bands.
As for the name selling tickets. I'll absolutely agree with that. I'm not sure anyone ever argued any different. People aren't buying tickets because they loved "Chinese Democracy", aside from the hardcores. With that being said though, outside of a handful of people I really don't think the crowd is surprised or upset to find out there's no Slash anymore, or that the current band's performance is below par.
That's BS. I've seen countless music reporters, bloggers, and all around internet geeks and former GN'R fans go out to shows from 2001-2010 and talk about how much the new band sucked and they wasted their money.
In fairness, i've seen just as many love the new band and talk how fantastic they are, including myself in 2006.
But to say it's overwhelming is simply not true. If anything it's 50/50, and still has a mixed reaction to audiences.
The albatross of an album, "Chinese Democracy" was released in 2008, when many fans claimed it would never see the light of day. It did. And people were ecstatic! There was next to no action following its release and everyone began wondering if they would ever tour. Well it took over a year, but they did. And people were ecstatic! And they've been touring ever since and now people are complaining that there's no new music, and that the setlists are static, and they're not touring the US, and even if they did it wouldn't be worth going to see, and they wouldn't be able to fill Joe's Bar and Grill on a double bill with White Lion. I've heard it all before, I'll hear it all again.
I remember CD's release inciting "ecstatic" from the fanbase. But not the 2009-10 tour. I remember underwhelming reactions from fans of "oh okay, i'll go see them out of loyalty".
Only AFTER attending the 2010 shows, did I see people go "wow, that was fuckin' great".
It was almost like for awhile there that the new GN'R had to put themselves over with their fans again. I know they did me. A year ago i'd of told them to fuck off, but the positive reviews of 2010, I think i'd go to a show or two in 2011 if they perform in the U.S.
Axlin08, L.A. Guns still has two original members, dude, and they put out new music every other year or so. I still dig them. They rock! I'd rather see them than GNR.
You said it, lmao.
Re: Guns n Roses in Studio 2011
Kinda off-topic. Didn't know where to post this, so here you go.
Thinking of GNR's absence in the US lately. Kinda gives a little insight into the state of the rock/metal scene in the US.
The #1 bestselling rock/metal album in 2010 was actually released way back in 2008!!??
http://www.nrk.no/lydverket/denne-gjengen-solgte-mest/
Really?! Fucking Nickelback??!!
Jeez, makes even ME question if a GNR tour in the US would go well!!
Don't have anything to add to the topic in this thread. I've grown tired of it...
Happy New Year, you freaks!!!!!
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As for watching White Lion - I wouldn't recommend it - they suck. But you're ALL WRONG on why I referenced them, BUT I FORGIVE YOU because you are unfamiliar with them. White Lion, like Faster Pussycat, like LA Guns, like Whitesnake... all have something in common with Guns N' Roses. Those bands as they exist today are all former popular LA rock bands from the 80's, who tour now as nostaligia acts with JUST their original lead singer, and an entirely different backing band, but still called by their original name.
THAT'S why I referenced them. Not to say "GN'R suck", they don't. Far from it. The band is wonderful. But the circumstances are identical. The difference is, all of those other bands were modestly successful and the same thing happened. Guns N' Roses is a case of a "high-profile" band from LA, having the same thing happen to them.
Ha, I never thought of it that way, but you're totally right. If GNR had only been a moderate success, you'd still have Axl playing with four or five other guys most people have never heard of, only they'd be headlining state fairs and dive bars instead of Euro festivals. And then you'd also also have a competing "Guns N Roses featuring Slash, Duff, and Steven Adler" with Jizzy Pearl or John Corabi singing!
