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Re: Stinson Vents at Del James During Dublin Concert
Assuming this article is accurate, I'd say the cummulative effect of things have taken a toll on Tommy. It's not just the late starts; it's the lack of music being released and having very little power or say in the band.
It just seems like there's something a little extra going on here. It's a nightly occurrence that things are hurled at the stage now. It's almost a part of the show. Maybe they should build themselves a bubble that they can play in for protection.
Honestly though, it just seems some concertgoers are taking matters into their own hands and they feel they have the right to become part of the show. I mean, this was a SOLD OUT show and this happened. I just don't get it.
I'd say it's because people are peeved at having to wait a long time and that they're drunk. I'm surprised this doesn't happen a lot more at GNR concerts.
Re: Stinson Vents at Del James During Dublin Concert
Yeah get a whole lot of people together on the piss, then give them an extra 1 - 1.5 hours to drink while they wait with nothing else to do, the outcome isn't going to be pretty. The natives will get restless.
It shouldn't play out that way from either side, but unfortunately it does.
Re: Stinson Vents at Del James During Dublin Concert
About the going on late though. Why does it seem like all of a sudden, the late starts are getting so much attention? Am I crazy to think that it's due to the coverage it got leading up to the Reading/Leeds festivals? They put it out in the press, pretty much warning the crowd that they could be in for a long wait. I know it's been said to death, but they've ALWAYS gone on late. And 1 hour, a half hour, 1 and a half hours, that's not exactly breaking any records. A lot of shows have close to an hour wait in between the opening act and the main act. I went to see Tom Petty a few weeks back and he went on about an hour after Crosby, Stills, and Nash.
It just seems like there's something a little extra going on here. It's a nightly occurrence that things are hurled at the stage now. It's almost a part of the show. Maybe they should build themselves a bubble that they can play in for protection.
Honestly though, it just seems some concertgoers are taking matters into their own hands and they feel they have the right to become part of the show. I mean, this was a SOLD OUT show and this happened. I just don't get it.
Like I said the other day, it was never alright to fuck your fans around and leave them standing around for hours, never will be. Average people dont get used to it, so every time they do it, it is even worse to the audience. The lack of respect shown on such a regular basis is tangible.
Surely Tommy was referring to the rest of the band as his "family", and "he" putting them in "danger again" was Axl.
Re: Stinson Vents at Del James During Dublin Concert
what a load of balls. what about the fans who dropped loadsa money on this just to be ripped off by a bunch of fuckin pussys.
instead of spending money on a ticket/hotel/petrol/food & drink i'd have had a good a time if i'd taken that money & flushed it down the toilet.
who's gonna stick up for the fans in this band?
family?? at least they got fuckin paid..
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Re: Stinson Vents at Del James During Dublin Concert
Stinson, Ron… these are good people, and they don't deserve this shit. I'm not sure I can blame Axl for the problems; they're putting on a big production and it takes time to set the stage up… but they shouldn't be *starting* to set the stage up at 9:30pm. Like I said in the other thread, it seems to me that there's a fundamental break in communication between the band, the venue and the management. Specifically, I'm not sure that whoever's in charge of the road crew is up to the task of shepherding this show onto the stage every night.
Re: Stinson Vents at Del James During Dublin Concert
if they start @ 9:30 and then go on at 10:30 its maybe a little long but only by about 5 minutes...i would think 45 minutes is absolute bare minimum to set up..what do i know though
anyway its hard to know the context of tommy's remarks....i read it like he was concerned about the band getting hurt in case of a riot...maybe his family was in attendance though
geez...its been a rough start to the euro tour 
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GUNS N ROSES: STATEMENT ISSUED BY PROMOTERS MCD AND THE MANAGEMENT OF THE O2
News last updated: 02-09-2010
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Statement issued by Promoters MCD & the management of The O2 regarding the Guns N' Roses concert at The 02, Dublin, Wednesday 1st September 2010.
Despite every effort being made by promoters to ensure Guns N' Roses would go on stage on time, they went on at 22.26hrs having been due to be on stage at 21.45hrs, support artist finished at 21:00hrs.
During the second song Axl requested members of crowd who were throwing plastic glass's containing unknown substances to immediately stop or he would have no option but to leave the stage. He confirmed band's wish to perform stating "we want to stay..one more bottle and we go home". Despite his continued appeals, having tried to continue performing for 22 minutes,
people continued throwing unknown substances leaving artist with no choice but to leave the stage.
From the stage MCD Promoter Denis Desmond again appealed to audience to refrain from throwing items and stated that the band would be back on stage shortly.
The artist was prevented from leaving the venue by the Promoter and following backstage discussions Guns N' Roses went back on stage at 23.20 hrs and performed their full set until 00.53 hrs.
While the artist has a long history for being late on stage (Slane 1992 - crowd waiting 2 hours and last weekend's UK Reading festival), NO artist should be subjected to missiles and unknown substances being thrown at them. However, despite this the band went back on stage after people stopped throwing items performing their full set of songs in full.
MCD and The 02 wish to apologise for any inconvenience caused due to late running of the show
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I went and saw Kiss who have the biggest production known to man and they hit stage within 30mins of Buckcherry finishing.
so i am thinking GNR have the shittiest crew known to man. Think about it, all theexperienced awesome crews are already on major tours..so Axl probably gets the scraps no one else wants.
