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Re: Sturgis, South Dakota, USA (Rock 'N Rev Festival)
What would they do, try and make an album? It's a nostalgia trip, nothing more. Given Slash's recent (or never ending form) in writing music, you're in for a fart level of AFD.
Slash wrote some pretty good and even great themes for his solo album, but most of them did't get completed, unfortunately. Huge difference. He was the last member of GN'R, who turned out not to be a solo artist. Not a tragedy. Slash - just like the others - needs other people to achieve great results.
I don't see any album in a reunited GN'R though. But a great farewell tour would be great, as long as they are alive and can play well. They'd better hurry. Then we'll get what we got in the past years: predictable to good solo albums, mostly mediocre stuff. I don't expect too much from them in the future. I'll be happy if there are 2 or 3 AFD quality songs on each albums. (Well, not Think About You quality 
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Re: Sturgis, South Dakota, USA (Rock 'N Rev Festival)
A farewell tour? Great- More nostalgia. Sounds like something Kiss would do. Not interested. I'd rather have Ashba and Axl write togheter and create something fresh and new, but I have to admit that I am not a majority on this matter.
But, compared to other talk on this board, reunion debates are a wet dream. It will never arise. It's a debate that holds on foundation in real life.
Re: Sturgis, South Dakota, USA (Rock 'N Rev Festival)
justbill wrote:"People don'™t understand. Axl builds anticipation, and when he comes on stage, it'™s an explosion," Stark said.
When 25% of the crowd has bailed before CD's intro, it's not an explosion. It's a popcorn fart.
Losing a fourth of your crowd before walking onstage is a frightening statistic, and that's not even factoring that they cant even sell out half an arena. Pull this stunt on a 2010-2011 US arena tour, you can take the remainder of the crowd backstage and perform the tunes there.
A tour here in the states has disaster written all over it.
Absolutely James. I read that part and nearly puked. The guy who said that is the epitomy of an Axl Rose nutswinger and needs a swift kick in the nuts. My fucking god. He thinks that Axl builds anticipation? Fuck no all he does is piss people off. It's not anticipation it's annoying as hell and when people are leaving because of it he's making it so people who did care don't. He's a fucking idiot. There's already anticipation. People pay for tikets to see bands they WANT to see so there's no need to "build anticipation" cause it already exists. All Axl does is piss people off. He's lucky he doesn't get the piss knocked out of him by some angry fan one of these days.
Re: Sturgis, South Dakota, USA (Rock 'N Rev Festival)
I don't care about being popular and I don't care if 25% of the crowd left before the show started. However, I am WAY WAY WAY WAY over Chinese Democracy. For fuck's sake, put out an EP, a single, something.
I hate to say it but it is time for Tommy to pull out. Fuck the money. Just get back with Paul and churn out some rock and roll.
That or just go with Soul Asylum full time. Axl's a loser and this Gn'R is bush league.
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Oh and what's fucking hilarious is how everyone points to Slash's recent output as clear cut indication as to what a reunion album would sound like. Ummm.. hello people Slash's recent output ISN'T a collaboration with Axl Rose. EVERYTIHNG they did together in the past was fucking golden so theres' no reason to think they couldn't do it again. Plus it's not like Axl has accomplished anything all that great without Slash. Only people on Gn'R message boards think Chinese was great. hell I'm on a Gn'R message board and I think Slash's output is better than Axl's. CD is average at best.
Oh and people who keep saying a reunion tour would be a disaster let me remind you of the aborted 2002 and 2006 tours. I'm pretty sure in Gn'R land a reunion tour would be just fine.
The funniest thing of all is how some people claim to have no interest in a "nostalgia reunion tour" yet they fully support this fucking shame of a band right now. It's all nostalgia in the form of a cover band. I'd fucking love to see the old band play the old songs. I find it laughable that some of you prefer what's going on now to a reunion tour. This new band ain't gonna do shit so why not just get the real deal back together and let them do what the new band is doing?
Re: Sturgis, South Dakota, USA (Rock 'N Rev Festival)
I find it laughable that some of you prefer what's going on now to a reunion tour.
Here's a thinker for you:
Maybe some of us actually have our heads on straight, knowing that a reunion tour will never happen, ergo there's absolutely no point wishing for it, discussing it, or jerking off to it.
But, good to see you stay positive and all of that.
This new band ain't gonna do shit so why not just get the real deal back together and let them do what the new band is doing?
Can I get Marilyn Monroe on backing vocals and Jimi Hendrix on rythm?
Re: Sturgis, South Dakota, USA (Rock 'N Rev Festival)
I guess I'm in the minority, but I'd still love to see this lineup live. Regardless if it's only 2 "new" songs or so. Again, I'm not sure why people are up in arms or surprised at the setlist. Did you honestly expect massive changes? Or were you expecting what we got and were just chomping at the bit to bury them for it? I'm guessing the latter. Well, you got it, so have at it.
you don't need massive changes, change one or two songs & you could have a different set & experience each night - who in any audience needs to relive KOHD again??
it's a very simple procedure that would go a long way. look at the plaudits & hype surrounding the Tyoko set & Asian sets & how all that goodwill have dissipated as the setlist has becoming boringly predictable.
if every GnR set promised even at least 1 different song rarely performed it would benefit everyone - the audience, the fans & the band.
it's not like we're asking for a video or a new album or for mother goose to give us a blowjob.
because it's such a relatively small detail compared to the wider clusterfuck of the GnR saga the setlist complaints get swept under the carpet, but they're indictive of the dilemma of the organisation post-'89 (or: since axl gained control of the ship): undermined by fear & lack of preparation. they can't play different song's 'cause axl's a pussy, afraid of how they'll sound & they'll sound like shit 'cause he hasn't sang them enough.
it's a symptom of the wider tragedy. victory & power & empire for ever have been won but what good has axl ever done with the band without the other guys? GnR concerts should have surprises & unscripted excitement - but you coulda guessed this setlist 6 or 7 months ago. Axl isn't treating GnR live like a special entity, he's trying to treat it like every other band & he's doing it even worse than they do (at least the broing big bands might vary their set from continent to continent if not country to country or venue to venue).
axl's got everything he could hope for but he still wears the burden like a noose round his neck instead of being liberated by it. you would expect this liberation to be released most powerfully live as it's really the last place axl has total control over but instead of investing it with imagination & enthusiasm we get the comfortable set with songs that must've been performed about 1000 times already.
the GnR experience has gotten boring and predictable. that's pretty terrible. & they can't even raise themselves to shuffle up a minor aspect like the setlist how are they ever gonna function as a force beyond this tour. it'll fall back into the bleak cycle we've become accustomed to, only this time we don't have a record to wait for.
but there's also something a bit more personal that pisses me off. i've paid for two GnR shows this summer, one day after the other. the venues are about a 2 hour journey away from each other. it looks like i'm gonna be ripped off. i could probably have a similar sorta experience sitting in front of my comp watching youtube for two hours. it'll be the exact same choreographed performances of the exact same songs. in any day and age but particularly in a post-youtube world you can't be recycling a decade old setlist & expect people to believe they're giving all they have to give. instead the concerts seem like an inconvenience to axl & the band. if anything common courtesy, respect & politefulness GnR & Axl would be playing mindblowing setlists each & every night to thank the fans who do turn up to still support the band, you would expect that being their only capable form of expression. but no, they trot out the same safe stale set 'cause there's no risk.
Re: Sturgis, South Dakota, USA (Rock 'N Rev Festival)
Looks like this is it, the last new GNR tour. Had a really great start like everything gnr, but is
fizzling out when it should be just hitting its middle plateau. At least I get to ee them before they drop off the face of the earth
Re: Sturgis, South Dakota, USA (Rock 'N Rev Festival)
Kind of sad to see this day come. I've seen it coming gradually over the years and predicted it long before it started, but the actual downfall is really sad to watch. People that you couldn't have paid in the past to say anything negative are now bordering on negative and are at the very least seeing what a lot of people have been seeing for awhile.
I've always admired the people that supported the new band in a strange way. I guess part of me wished that I could only see the positive and ignore the rest of it, so as crazy as I thought some people were, part of me was really envious.
