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Randall Flagg
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Re: Blu-Ray or HD-DVD?

I used to believe HD-DVD would win out, ecpseically when the porn industry when HD-DVD exclusive.  But as someone pointed out, very few people buy porn, they just download it (like me).  I also read an article that HD-DVD porn was selling quite poorly because it was a turn off to see all the imperfections in such up close, high detail.  I've never viewed a HD-DVD porn so I can't speak from experience, but there was an article on this several months ago.

While I agree Blu-Ray appears to be the victor, Sony's gamble with the PS3 has had little influence.  About 3 million PS3s had been sold by the end of 2008 I believe making it the least popular nextgen system and having a minor influence on the market.  The PS2 was great aiding the DVD into mainstream because they sold millions of copies of their system.  I personally avoid using my video game consoles ad DVD players as much as possible because running a DVD through them is alot of tear and wear.  I am kind of jacked though that I spent thousands on my DVD collection (I have around 300) and was naieve enough to think they'd last forever.  Live and you learn I guess.

RussTCB
 Rep: 633 

Re: Blu-Ray or HD-DVD?

RussTCB wrote:

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tejastech08
 Rep: 194 

Re: Blu-Ray or HD-DVD?

tejastech08 wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

I used to believe HD-DVD would win out, ecpseically when the porn industry when HD-DVD exclusive.  But as someone pointed out, very few people buy porn, they just download it (like me).  I also read an article that HD-DVD porn was selling quite poorly because it was a turn off to see all the imperfections in such up close, high detail.  I've never viewed a HD-DVD porn so I can't speak from experience, but there was an article on this several months ago.

While I agree Blu-Ray appears to be the victor, Sony's gamble with the PS3 has had little influence.  About 3 million PS3s had been sold by the end of 2008 I believe making it the least popular nextgen system and having a minor influence on the market.  The PS2 was great aiding the DVD into mainstream because they sold millions of copies of their system.  I personally avoid using my video game consoles ad DVD players as much as possible because running a DVD through them is alot of tear and wear.  I am kind of jacked though that I spent thousands on my DVD collection (I have around 300) and was naieve enough to think they'd last forever.  Live and you learn I guess.

Just up-convert them, unless you absolutely have to have them in high def.

RussTCB
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Re: Blu-Ray or HD-DVD?

RussTCB wrote:

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Tommie
 Rep: 67 

Re: Blu-Ray or HD-DVD?

Tommie wrote:

What do you guys mean when you say up-convert them?

monkeychow
 Rep: 661 

Re: Blu-Ray or HD-DVD?

monkeychow wrote:

Well someone whos more of a techie than me will be able to explain better...

Its about lines of pixels to make resolution. A 1080 televison can display 1080 lines of data. A Blu Ray disc has this much data to display naturally. A Dvd does not...they only have 480 lines (or whatever the exact number is it is...i've forgotten).

If you have a screen of 1080 lines and you only use 480 of them it looks shit cos there are lots of gaps.

However there is a technology called "upscaling" or "upconverting" (not to be confused with upskirting wink that basicly gets the 480 lines and makes them fit to 1080 by simulating what would be in those missing lines using processors.

You can either buy seperate hardware for this - like video processors . Or I'd expect most blu-ray players to have this technology built into them...but i havnt studied it yet.

Anyway a dvd played on an upconverting system will look better than a conventional dvd, but less good than something that was 1080 in the first place without the need for processing. (ie Blu Ray)

Gunslinger
 Rep: 88 

Re: Blu-Ray or HD-DVD?

Gunslinger wrote:
tejastech08 wrote:
Gunslinger wrote:

Right now Blu-Ray is winning the war.  Blockbuster isn't even carrying HD-Dvd any longer.  As far as video quality they are both excellent and it would be hard to say which is better athough (strictly an opinion here) I think the blu-rays can produce a bit more "depth" in the picture quality.  From a technical standpoint the Blu- Ray is superior as it can hold 15x the info that a HD-DVD can.   That doesn't mean that it will come out the victor.  Betamax was superior to the VHS yet VHS won.  MD was superior to the CD, CD won.

15 times? Who the fuck told you that? A dual layer Blu-ray is 50 gigs. A dual layer HD DVD is 30 gigs. Since when is 50 divided by 30 equal to 15? 1.67 is more like it.

Noboby "told me" I have worked in electronics (until recently due to a family sickness) for years.  I worked closely with the industry leaders and I know my shit.  However I did not mean FIFTEEEN times but FIVE times (even then I was being modest considering it is actually closer to 7x).  Plans are to have a 250 gig Blu Ray discs out by the end of this year and TDK had already made a prototype near the end of 2006 that could store 200 gigs.  The potential is one huge reason Blu Ray is winning. 
Here's the article:  http://www.betanews.com/article/TDK_Dev … 1157125164

monkeychow
 Rep: 661 

Re: Blu-Ray or HD-DVD?

monkeychow wrote:

^ Does that mean I should not buy a Blu Ray player just yet? Like will it change?

Neemo
 Rep: 485 

Re: Blu-Ray or HD-DVD?

Neemo wrote:
monkeychow wrote:

^ Does that mean I should not buy a Blu Ray player just yet? Like will it change?

i wouldnt buy anything until this all gets sorted out....but if you need to be on the cutting edge then you do what you gotta do...

personally for me DVD is fine, looks great, when HD and the next movie format are cheaper and stuff then i'll upgrade

only a few years ago plasma tvs were $20,000 now they are like $2,000

Gunslinger
 Rep: 88 

Re: Blu-Ray or HD-DVD?

Gunslinger wrote:
monkeychow wrote:

Does that mean I should not buy a Blu Ray player just yet? Like will it change?

It could but I wouldn't let that stop you.  It is basically the storage media that is being improved for the most part.  Of course the longer you wait the lesser the price, so that is always a good reason to procrastinate.

If you want a inexpensive way to enjoy higher quality viewing of the dvds you own right now just go buy an inexpensive dvd player that up-converts.  You can get them for 30.00 bucks or so at Wally-World right now.  It's a good way to improve your viewing without paying a lot of cash out.  I only have a Blu Ray because I got a PS3.  The high definition is definitely amazing but I wouldn't have spent the cash just for that reason.  It's just a matter of what gives you the most enjoyment and literally how much it is worth to you.

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