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Re: Best Slash Moments out side of GNR (post 1991)
I just don't understand those who think Slash's post-GN'R work sucks. What did you like in GN'R? Only Axl's voice and the piano?
Cause those legendary solos are all there on Slash's albums, sometimes even topped. The guitars are there, the energy is there, all that was vital in GN'R. I'm not saying Slash was GN'R, cause 4 (or 5) guys were the band, but you can hear all those unmistakable characteristics that were major parts of the classic band's music.
I can listen to Electric Tears by Buckethead on repeat for hours, and that is just a guitar album.
I listen to the whole song. The bass, the drums, the guitar, the vocalist etc. Slash's work after GNR doesn't really have that same magic that it did while he was in GNR.
If James came with a 14 track BH cd and said it was the best cd ever I would have the same reaction to him that he had to you, and I'm a huge Bucket fan.
- Mikkamakka
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Re: Best Slash Moments out side of GNR (post 1991)
So there isn't a "Best album ever", for you, right? Or only The Beatles or Pink Floyd could be on it?
Re: Best Slash Moments out side of GNR (post 1991)
Probably James could come up with a 14-song best of Buckethead that, he thinks, cannot be topped
No he couldn't. While I do think a couple Bucket albums are some of the best music the past ten years, I could not compile a list of his songs and proclaim it the best album ever.
There's very few artists/bands you can realistically do that with(and yes Floyd and the Beatles are two of them), but Slash solo projects just doesn't cut the mustard for such a thing.
Yeah music is subjective and everyone has personal favorites. Like already mentioned, its the "best album ever" tag you gave it that's the issue, not the track list. Then you have the balls to say he has enough great songs left over for a 2nd best album ever.
Post GNR Slash just isn't that good. He's had some great songs, but nothing rivaling best ever territory, and definitely not two albums worth.
Also, no one is asking you to apologize for being a "Slashite".
- Mikkamakka
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Re: Best Slash Moments out side of GNR (post 1991)
Yeah, the 2nd best album comment was too strong, but I still back my Slash Best Of. I don't say that it would be the best album ever by (non-existing) objective standards, but it would be the best album ever for me. I love these songs. Truely and deeply and the first Snakepit album gives me the same feeling as AFD. It's full of life, passion and energy - and last, but not least, great music. Same goes for the other mentioned songs. If some can hail CD or any other album as the best ever, then my opinion is just as valid as theirs.
I love The Beatles and I could make a Best Of album of their material that couldn't be rivaled by any other album released, but I think it's snobism to think that only a Beatles, Pink Floyd and Michael Jackson compilation could be the best album ever. No. You don't like Slash too much. I love his music. I am not a big fan of Soundgarden's music, but I wouldn't attack anyone who'd say that this or that dream Cornell compilation would be the best album ever. Especially not on a Soundgarden board. It's not Britney Spears we're talking about, that an opinion like this would be a joke. It's a valid opinion. Especially on a GN'R message board.
Re: Best Slash Moments out side of GNR (post 1991)
madagas wrote:Mikkamakka wrote:Neither Can I
Always on the Run
Beggars and Hangers-On
Vocalise
Shine
Good To Be Alive
Back and Forth Again
Watch This
Serial Killer
Messages (with different vocals)
Be The Ball
Slither
YGNR
Ain't Life Grand?
ObsessionBonus:
Obsession ConfessionThis would be the best album EVER and there is still enough Slash material for the second best album.
(I haven't heard the solo yet, except a few songs.)
probably the most INSANELY DELUSIONAL comment ever on this board...you can't be serious? Best album ever?
Yes, it is my opinion. These are all awesome songs. If others have the right to tell that CD is the best album ever, than I have the right to tell what I think, too. Probably James could come up with a 14-song best of Buckethead that, he thinks, cannot be topped. Would you say that he's insanely delusional? Would you be INSANELY DELUSIONAL if you list a 14-song best of Bob Dylan and hail it? We all have favourites, and mine is Slash, bseides Tori Amos, and I could make a best of Tori that would be better than AFD or anything else for me. I find it quite strange that I have apologize for a 'Slashite' opinion on a Guns N' Roses message board. Now, this is INSANELY RIDUCUOLOUS.
Outside of the songs SCOM/WTTJ and the album AFD, I don't think Axl or Slash has done anything that can be considered in a conversation of the "best ever".
You don't have to apologize for anything... except maybe bad taste. 
- Mikkamakka
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Re: Best Slash Moments out side of GNR (post 1991)
So loving Slash's solo career is bad taste? On a GN'R board. It's a joke, but you managed to top it with the 'outside of the songs SCOM/WTTJ and the album AFD, I don't think Axl or Slash has done anything that can be considered in a conversation of the 'best ever". ' comment.
Re: Best Slash Moments out side of GNR (post 1991)
Yeah, the 2nd best album comment was too strong, but I still back my Slash Best Of. I don't say that it would be the best album ever by (non-existing) objective standards, but it would be the best album ever for me. I love these songs. Truely and deeply and the first Snakepit album gives me the same feeling as AFD. It's full of life, passion and energy - and last, but not least, great music. Same goes for the other mentioned songs. If some can hail CD or any other album as the best ever, then my opinion is just as valid as theirs.
I love The Beatles and I could make a Best Of album of their material that couldn't be rivaled by any other album released, but I think it's snobism to think that only a Beatles, Pink Floyd and Michael Jackson compilation could be the best album ever. No. You don't like Slash too much. I love his music. I am not a big fan of Soundgarden's music, but I wouldn't attack anyone who'd say that this or that dream Cornell compilation would be the best album ever. Especially not on a Soundgarden board. It's not Britney Spears we're talking about, that an opinion like this would be a joke. It's a valid opinion. Especially on a GN'R message board.
Slash does have some killer tracks. About half of that Snakepit record was great and had tons of potential if Axl would have gave it his midas touch. Other than that, only Slither and Messages comes close. Same with Gilby. Pawnshop Guitars has a handful of really good songs, and Axl singing Cure Me Or Kill Me would have topped the charts in that era, yet flies under the radar due to Gilby.
You actually put together a decent compilation, but I just cant see ranking it so damn high. You love all those songs. Congrats. Nothing wrong with enjoying music you love. I just think labeling that list of songs as 'Best Ever" is a giant leap.
you managed to top it with the 'outside of the songs SCOM/WTTJ and the album AFD, I don't think Axl or Slash has done anything that can be considered in a conversation of the 'best ever". '
He's right. All these guys peaked in 87-91. Hard to label people as best ever with such a small discog of impressive work, especially when cherry picking tracks from an era post 91. Slash is all over the place quality wise, and Axl is the exact opposite of prolific and has one album and one song on a soundtrack to show in his post 94 period. If we're gonna play around with Best Ever compilations, gonna need to use other artists/bands in the discussion because they fall short.
If some can hail CD or any other album as the best ever, then my opinion is just as valid as theirs.
Two things...
1. Anyone that would label Chinese Democracy as the best album ever made clearly hasn't listened to very much music(no offense). Even Axl himself would laugh at someone claiming that, and so would I. Even if every song was superb, the shit production would forever prevent it of deserving such a label.
2. You're now talking about albums, not fan made compilations. Someone saying Superunknown is the greatest album ever made is different than you compiling solo Slash tracks over a 15 year period giving it the Best Ever tag.
His bad taste thing an obvious joke(see the smiley for reference), as he has said he does like some solo Slash/VR songs.
You don't like Slash too much.
Oh really? I'm so glad you informed me of what I like. When M.I.A.'s new album leaks, I'll send it to you first so I can find out if I'm gonna like it or not.
Other than Bucket and Thayil, Slash is my favorite guitarist. I have stated many times that the first Snakepit record has some impressive tunes. While I'm not much of a fan of VR, they have a handful of songs that I like. Just because I don't think his solo output deserves to be considered the best ever doesn't mean I don't like him.
I am not a big fan of Soundgarden's music, but I wouldn't attack anyone who'd say that this or that dream Cornell compilation would be the best album ever.
No one is attacking you. Don't take it personally. You're well liked here. People are just commenting on your Slash compilation and how it doesn't really deserve to be placed on such a high pedestal.
You don't have to apologize for liking Slash. Like you said, its a GNR board and Slash has quite a few fans here obviously. However, when you proclaim a selection of tracks like that as the best, expect varied reaction to it and it's certainly nothing against you personally.
- monkeychow
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Re: Best Slash Moments out side of GNR (post 1991)
I would probably swap a few tracks on Mikka's list for others, but I think it's concievable that I could make a Slash compilation that would be my best album ever too, or at least a tied #1 place with one or two of my other most favourite albums. So i see where he's comming from.
Re: Best Slash Moments out side of GNR (post 1991)
First of all, great albums are moments in time. A compilation is just a group of songs that is randomly placed together...songs that are recorded at different times with sometimes different musicians and producers. Truly great albums are songs recorded together in a very cohesive manner and that are meant to be released together. AFD, Joshua Tree, Who's Next, Sgt Peppers, Dark Side, and hundreds of others depending on your personal taste are "albums" where best ever designation can be appropriate. Albums that have a very cohesive feel to them AND have made a significant contribution to the culture and timeframe in which they were recorded. Compilation records are just random tracks chosen from different points of one's career.
Now, to me, Chinese just sounds like an Axl "compilation" of various songs recorded by him with different musicians and producers over a ten year period. There is no cohesive feel to Chinese. When you have songs like Shackler's and something like SOD on the same record, you're either schizo or just "compiling" tracks to put out a disc of music.
- monkeychow
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Re: Best Slash Moments out side of GNR (post 1991)
Interesting Madagas, although in a way the production on Chinese kind of glues it together, they're all mixed the same sort of way, and with so many layers added in (love or hate it). For example, the final version of Catcher very much to me sounds like the Chinese Democracy version...it fits the other songs on the record, whereas the original leak was like the same song in the form it might be on an album of distinct tracks.
