Best Slash Moments out side of GNR (post 1991)

alexh0618

I'm with the group that thinks Slash's sobriety has improved his playing ability live. When I saw VR back in 2005, his playing was really sloppy. He fretted out on alot of songs and his bends weren't always on key. He admits in his book about being off the wagon during that time. When I saw VR in 2008, it was a completely different story. He nailed every song and his solo/blues jam thing was amazing.

Smoking Guns

Axlin08, we are talking of his live playing lately.

James

Mikkamakka wrote:

Neither Can I
Always on the Run
Beggars and Hangers-On
Vocalise
Shine
Good To Be Alive
Back and Forth Again
Watch This
Serial Killer
Messages (with different vocals )
Be The Ball
Slither
YGNR
Ain't Life Grand?
Obsession
Bonus:
Obsession Confession
This would be the best album EVER

Smoking Guns

We all know Axl on IFOCS and SLASH and even Contraband would fucking own, so lets not act like it wouldn't.

Axlin16

metallex78 wrote:

Axlin08 wrote:
I think that's possible, but even still, he seems like a sloppy live player. The sole exception of anything i've heard from him is, he seems to be able to play the AFD & Lies songs flawlessly.
Don't wanna sound like a dick, but I've pointed out several times the live version of Nothing To say, which on his new CD has some very technical and fast playing, and he plays it live at the Roxy gig almost flawlessly.
And on all the Roxy footage I've seen, his playing is tighter than ever, and that's not just old GN'R material either.
I think being sober has definitely improved his playing overall.

That Nothing To Say live performance is pretty good, I give him credit where it's due. One could argue, that it's one of the most technical songs he's ever done, BUT...

One song cannot account for the man today. If he's playing better sober, that's possible, but I dunno... I just never thought the man duplicate quite a bit of his work in a live setting, sober or not.

There are guitarists out there that not only duplicate their work, but sound better on the songs live than they do in the studio. Not to pool from the GN'R pool, but Ron sounds better on CD live, and more technical, than what made the actual album.

I've never heard Slash do that, from GN'R to the present....

bigbri

Axl on Slash or IFOCS would not own. It's the songs, not the members.

It's like saying Slash on CD would own. No, not those songs.

Now, if you wanna say they wrote those albums together, that's a different story, but that's even more hypothetical.

My problem with the Slash songs, since we're in a Slash thread, is the arrangements on the songs, the cheesy-ass lyrics on several of them and the by-the-numbers nature of them. No singer can fix that.

Smoking Guns

Bigbri, I am assuming Axl is allowed to sing his own lyrics... I am acting like there was no other singer, but that Axl dug the tunes and wrote everything for them.

Saikin

buzzsaw wrote:

monkeychow wrote:
Saikin wrote:
I think Slash's best moments outside of GNR still need to be held to the same standard of his work in GNR.
Yes but likewise Slash's guitar parts in GNR should be judged against his GUITAR outside of GNR too. No point holding Slash accountable when the singer on a track lowers the standard of the song, just as it wouldn't be right to praise slash for instances where Axl kicks ass on a track.
That's it in a nutshell. Slash isn't the problem, and anyone that thinks his playing has gotten worse probably doesn't play guitar or understand guitar. That isn't meant to be an insult, I just can't understand how anybody that appreciates quality guitar work could say Slash has gotten worse than he was when he was drunk/stoned all the time. Some of those videos from the show at the Roxy are pretty impressive technically, and that was live, not in a studio.

Usually your posts are pretty good, but this one fails. Now you are trying to tack on some sort of objective truth behind your opinion of Slash's playing while trying to throw out those of us who don't agree by saying we must not understand guitar?

You don't exactly have to be a singer to understand Miley Cyrus doesn't have that good of a voice.

Or that Chris Cornell can melt the paint off walls.

It's all subjective. I can listen to his work in GNR, and his live playing as well, and it moves me.

Very few of his material moves me in that way. There are some instances where it has a lot to do with the vocalist.

Mikkamakka

I just don't understand those who think Slash's post-GN'R work sucks. What did you like in GN'R? Only Axl's voice and the piano?
Cause those legendary solos are all there on Slash's albums, sometimes even topped. The guitars are there, the energy is there, all that was vital in GN'R. I'm not saying Slash was GN'R, cause 4 (or 5) guys were the band, but you can hear all those unmistakable characteristics that were major parts of the classic band's music.

Neemo

Saikin wrote:

Very few of his material moves me in that way. There are some instances where it has a lot to do with the vocalist.

all that means is that you are more attuned to the vocalist rather than the music behind it

vocals are almost always up front in the mix, therefore most peopel generally pay the most attention to vocals

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