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- metallex78
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Re: Slash & Friends @ The Roxy April 10th
I was watching STB and Slither at YouTube. I think he did those songs better than Scott did...and I liked Scott in VR.
I think so too. Scott struggled to replicate his studio vocals live, especially on STB.
Myles does it great.
- metallex78
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Re: Slash & Friends @ The Roxy April 10th
Let's not get crazy guys. Slash's guitar work these days leaves ALOT to be desired. There are certain moments, like that Duff & Dave tune (name escapes me right now) where he's great. But Slash hasn't produced anything on the level of UYI, since UYI. Even the most diehard of Slash fans can agree on that.
Just because Slash can play 20+ year old AFD songs, which he helped co-write, really really good, doesn't mean he's playing the best guitar of his life at 44. It means he's just had alot of practice playing his own material, hundreds of times, that he knows it like the back of his hand. Brian May can probably sleep, and still play the hell out of Tie Your Mother Down.
And that comment about Slash can take the CD material... well on the really shitty DJ level, you're probably right. But I would fucking love to see Slash try to attempt that Shackler's Revenge solo or There Was A Time solo...
Something tells me he'd learn a thing or two from Ron.
Did you check out his solos on Nothing To Say? That is some technical and fast playing (moreso than anything from AFD or UYI) and he nails it at the Roxy gig exactly like the studio version.
If you're not impressed by that, then nothing will impress you... 
- metallex78
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Re: Slash & Friends @ The Roxy April 10th
Axlin08 wrote:Let's not get crazy guys. Slash's guitar work these days leaves ALOT to be desired. There are certain moments, like that Duff & Dave tune (name escapes me right now) where he's great. But Slash hasn't produced anything on the level of UYI, since UYI. Even the most diehard of Slash fans can agree on that.
Just because Slash can play 20+ year old AFD songs, which he helped co-write, really really good, doesn't mean he's playing the best guitar of his life at 44. It means he's just had alot of practice playing his own material, hundreds of times, that he knows it like the back of his hand. Brian May can probably sleep, and still play the hell out of Tie Your Mother Down.
And that comment about Slash can take the CD material... well on the really shitty DJ level, you're probably right. But I would fucking love to see Slash try to attempt that Shackler's Revenge solo or There Was A Time solo...
Something tells me he'd learn a thing or two from Ron.
Did you check out his solos on Nothing To Say? That is some technical and fast playing (moreso than anything from AFD or UYI) and he nails it at the Roxy gig exactly like the studio version.
If you're not impressed by that, then nothing will impress you...
I'll also go on to say that Ron is killer guitar player, much better than Slash, but the solo on Shackler's mostky sounds like strange noodling and random notes of nothing.
I'd take a Slash solo with an actual melody over a solo like that any day.
Re: Slash & Friends @ The Roxy April 10th
buzzsaw wrote:I was watching STB and Slither at YouTube. I think he did those songs better than Scott did...and I liked Scott in VR.
Really? I'm going to have to go check those out then.
I know you're a big Scott fan...what did you think?
Re: Slash & Friends @ The Roxy April 10th
Let's not get crazy guys. Slash's guitar work these days leaves ALOT to be desired. There are certain moments, like that Duff & Dave tune (name escapes me right now) where he's great. But Slash hasn't produced anything on the level of UYI, since UYI. Even the most diehard of Slash fans can agree on that.
Just because Slash can play 20+ year old AFD songs, which he helped co-write, really really good, doesn't mean he's playing the best guitar of his life at 44. It means he's just had alot of practice playing his own material, hundreds of times, that he knows it like the back of his hand. Brian May can probably sleep, and still play the hell out of Tie Your Mother Down.
And that comment about Slash can take the CD material... well on the really shitty DJ level, you're probably right. But I would fucking love to see Slash try to attempt that Shackler's Revenge solo or There Was A Time solo...
Something tells me he'd learn a thing or two from Ron.
I think he'd do great with there was a time, as for shacklers, his "nothing to say" style pseudo metal approach would work very well
- monkeychow
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Re: Slash & Friends @ The Roxy April 10th
Let's not get crazy guys. Slash's guitar work these days leaves ALOT to be desired. There are certain moments, like that Duff & Dave tune (name escapes me right now) where he's great. But Slash hasn't produced anything on the level of UYI, since UYI. Even the most diehard of Slash fans can agree on that.
Well i'm a diehard slash fan and I disagree with that!!
My opinion is that the only reason slash 'hasn't produced anything on the level of UYI' is because the other members of what made UYI what it was are absent.
That is, to be blunt, Scott is a great singer, so is Eric Dover, but, to my tastes, they simply do not operate at the same level of ability as Axl.
Likewise, Slash has worked with some great foils, and I'm not for a second knocking the guitar abilities of any of these guys, they're great guitarists in their own right, but, that said, Kerri Kelli, Ryan Roxie and Gliby Clarke, Dave simply do not provide the same kind of songwriting foundation for Slash to solo and riff from that was provided by Izzy.
If you judge (and i'd probably disagree in some cases, but that's another post) the overall recordings of other bands as inferior to GNR, you can't blame that entire lack of skill on the one member of GNR who IS in the band, it's all about who ISN'T there.
In terms of what slash brings HIMSELF and not who else he works with, I think there's numerous recordings where his solos, and guitar parts are on par, or perhaps even superior to, his work with GNR. Again, the overall songs themselves may not be as good, but the part that Slash provides to them is usually just as good as what he provided back in the day, it's just they're lacking some other part of the equation.
The only possible exception to this is Contraband, which while a kickass rock and guitar album itself, i'll grant was quite stylisticly different from Snakepit, GNR and slash's usual approach....and i suspect Scott's influences are to blame for that personally.
So anyway, I can't see how Slash's guitar work leaves anything to be desired, he's steped outside his own box and found an amazing balance of being able to continue to do what he's always done, create beautiful emotive riffs and solos with such feel, yet also stretched the technical limits of his playing to another level.
The only thing that perhaps is left to be desired, depending on your perspective, is his choice of associates. My personal view is that if Axl, Izzy and their ilk had contributed to any of the tracks on snakepit, this album, or pretty much any other Slash work then the output would easily have been on par with UYI. There's nothing wrong with the guitar parts.
I wont get into the ron vs Slash cos i think they're both amazing players in very different ways.
Getting a bit off topic, but it's also notable from these videos the chemestry Slash has with Dave, Duff and Matt. Normally i'm singer and guitarist focused and don't give 2 shits who's backing them as much. But I think the versions of the VR songs here....slash and the singer sound pretty great...and the rest of the band is ok....but it's quite noticable how diffeerent the feel is to when Duff plays them too.
I know everyone seems over VR. But in my opinion Slash, Duff and Matt have an insane chemestry going on, and they're mad if they don't always play together.
- Mikkamakka
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Re: Slash & Friends @ The Roxy April 10th
He's old or doesn't have it anymore.
I'm not saying this to start anything, but I see alot of people that won't allow either of those to be reasonable excuses for his obvious decline. It's definitely one or the other. The common response is that he's not washed up, and he's not old.
He definitely doesn't suck. That's the only other one out there, but he wrote too many good songs in his youth for that.
He just doesn't seem to be able to duplicate ability in a live setting. He didn't really even do it in GNR's day. Anybody can be good in a studio.
