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Re: Slash V Axl V Izzy V Whoeverthe fuck
I don't see the innocence you guys see in AFD.
I think we're mistaking it for our own youthfull approach at the time we were listening to it.
ISE has a bit of innocence to it...like the idea you can drink drive and act like a fuck and everything works itself out.
But brownstone is about how drugs fucked them up, My Michelle is pretty dark, so is rocketqueen. The ones that are 'innocent' like nighttrain even have a darker connotation to the innocence to me. They state the purity of an addiction, of the desperate need, but you know where it will end in subtext. AFD is set in a film noir world like blade runner or maybe Sin City. It's a wonderful album but innocent is not a word I'd use to describe the GNR boys life in the 1980s. Slash and Axl and the lads have seen some serious shit go down.
Re: Slash V Axl V Izzy V Whoeverthe fuck
Staley was too far gone and a lost cause. That Mad Season record is amazing and practically a suicide note. A very haunting record, and it was released right after my dad died and I relapsed back into drugs big time, and I could identify with every word on that record.
Artificial red, smoke, poison consumed
In the house of ill repute
Is this the way I spend my days
In recovery of a fatal disease?
On a cloud of pink has to grey
And I'm alone again, yeah
Someone to hold against my own
Alone, untouched is what I crave
Artificial Red, smoke, poison consumed
In the house of ill repute
Is this the place I search for love
When my need is within me, a gift from above?
I don't know anything
I don't know who I am
I don't know anything
I don't know who to be
Why we have to live in so much hate everyday, oh yeah
Why the fighting and the coming down, am I sane?
I don't know
My pain is self-chosen
At least, so the prophet says
I could either burn
Or cut off my pride, and buy some time
A head full of lies is the weight, tied to my waist
The River of Deceit pulls down,
The only direction we flow is down
Down, oh down
My pain is self-chosen
At least I believe it to be
I could either drown
Or pull off my skin and swim to shore
Now I can grow a beautiful shell for all to see
For clear space and soundess of mind
I've let you play me for some time
One can only receive and retain
But the lies you recite for your gain
So you rely on my faith in your kind
Or rather continue to pretend that I'm blind
You say I made your life a living hell
And yet still let me pay you when I fell
How is you're feeling so uneasy?
How is it that I feel fine
Life reveals what is dealt through seasons
Circle comes around each time
I've been blessed with eyes to see this
Behind the unwhole truth you hide
Bite to remind the bitten, bigger
Mouth repaying tenfold wide
I'm above
Over you I'm standing above
Claiming unconditional love
Above
Try to keep bad blood in the past
Never thought a chance, a chance it would last
I have strength enough, enough to forgive
I desire peace where I live
I've been blessed with eyes to see this
Behind the unwhole truth you hide
Bite to remind the bitten, bigger
Mouth repaying tenfold wide
How is you're feeling so uneasy?
How is it that I feel fine
Life reveals what is dealt through seasons
Circle comes around each time
I'm above
Over you I'm standing above
Claiming unconditional love
Above
So much blood I'm starting to drown
Runs from cold to colder
Time to time the skies come down
To help me lose my way
Tears and lies for answers
You and open veins, God knows I'm gone
Girl I just want you to
Come on down
Lord it's a storm and I'm heading to fall
These sins are mine and I've done wrong, oh babe
Come on down
Long gone day
Mmmm, who ever said
We wash away with the rain
See you all from time to time
Isn't it so strange
How far away we all are now
Am I the only one who remembers that summer
Oh, I remember
Everyday each time the place was saved
The music that we made
The wind has carried all of that away
Long gone day
Mmmm, who ever said
We wash away with the rain
So many tears I'm starting to drown
The rain in heaven's all come down
Silver spoons fix the crown
The luckless ones are broken
Fears and lies for answers
You and open flames
God knows I'm gone
And I just want you to
Come on down
Lord it's a storm and I'm heading to fall
These sins are mine and I've done wrong
I want you to, oh I just want you to
Come on down
I fear again, like then, I've lost my way
And shout to God to bring my sunny day
Fuck me sideways. Just reading that gives me chills and takes me back to my own hell of 1995 when I was drowning myself in drugs and casual sex trying to deal with the death of my father who was only 39 and I also dropped out of college so I could move back to Cali where the good drugs flow like the Amazon River and the women have no resistance to spreading their legs.
Re: Slash V Axl V Izzy V Whoeverthe fuck
I don't see the innocence you guys see in AFD.
I think we're mistaking it for our own youthfull approach at the time we were listening to it.
No. Sure, the songs on AFD deal with what was happening at the time in LA, all the sex and the drugs and the corruption, but it's seen through the eyes of innocence. They were all new to it, and their innocence was still intact. It's when you hit the Illusions that you see that the cold reality had started to set it.
James, you are dead on about Layne. He was way too far gone and he had damaged his body so much with drugs there was no saving him.
The Mad Season record is so haunting. The first time we get to hear a whole album of Layne's lyrics and it still gives me chills.
My pain is self-chosen
At least, so the prophet says
I could either burn
Or cut off my pride, and buy some time
A head full of lies is the weight, tied to my waist
The River of Deceit pulls down,
The only direction we flow is down
Down, oh down
My pain is self-chosen
At least I believe it to be
I could either drown
Or pull off my skin and swim to shore
Now I can grow a beautiful shell for all to see
That part always gets to me.
And then he writes Get Born Again and Died which are both amazing songs lyrically. Get Born Again at times seems like he's singing about himself, and Died is just so raw and honest. It's a shame that we lost such a wonderful talent.
when i waken
and i'm achin
'time for sleepin', yeah
when i'm sayin'
time to go and
i've been hurtin', yeah
when i'm layin'
i'm still trying
concentrating on dyin', yeah
you're right as rain
but you're wrong to blame
agreed my crime's the same
my sins i'll claim
give you back shed pain
go find a place for own shame,
yeah
so you can deal
with this thing unreal
no one made you feel any hurt,
yeah
body's movin'
only provin'
no one needed to move
still believin'
yet mistaken
all god's children, yeah
and i must say
i was stupid
selfishly she consumed, yeah
and you must change
patterns all we trained
or never regain peace you seek
now you hear me
for the things i see
yeah, i believe in inner peace, yeah
This song was one of the few that have even brought me to tears. The way he sings it, and the way the words flow with Jerry's wonderful guitar work... this songs still gives me chills when I listen to it. The first time I heard it was during this huge rain storm. I remember it was a year after my grandpa passed away, and my cousin had just died a couple days ago, and my fiance of almost 2 years had just left me, and I was staring at the window and this song came on. I had never been moved like that before by any song ever.
This has turned into a damn good thread.
Re: Slash V Axl V Izzy V Whoeverthe fuck
Damn, u got me interested in this Mad Season stuff..
that is haunting stuff.
Agree on the Axl stuff.. I may criticize him a lot, but he is still the Greatest frontman of all time IMO.
That Madagascar leaked after RIR3 when i was goin through my hell and that shit speaks to me and that and Estranged I credit for allowing me just enough to not throw in the towel.
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Re: Slash V Axl V Izzy V Whoeverthe fuck
Damn, u got me interested in this Mad Season stuff..
that is haunting stuff.
Agree on the Axl stuff.. I may criticize him a lot, but he is still the Greatest frontman of all time IMO.
That Madagascar leaked after RIR3 when i was goin through my hell and that shit speaks to me and that and Estranged I credit for allowing me just enough to not throw in the towel.
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