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Re: STP Walks out on Scott at Show
ejsme posted this on the BelowEmpty.com forums:
To me, Scott seemed intoxicated throughout the show. Seemed drunk or I thought maybe the pain pills because of the heel. He did keep sipping on some beverage throughout the show, but I don'™t know what it was. Although he sounded really slurry and rambling when talking between songs, he actually did a great job for most of the show. It was excellent and thoroughly enjoyable. And the DeLeos didn'™t seem mad at him or anything. Dean actually came up and played his guitar with the neck stuck between Weiland'™s legs at one point.
But'¦ once they got to Dead & Bloated, partway in, Scott got completely lost and just seemed to forget the whole song, lyrics and melody. They tried to kind of go into a little jammy part to cover until they could get their bearings, but it just kind got more and more off track and Scott never seemed to be able to pick back up. So, Dean walks off to the side and switches guitars and they go into LoungeFly. Dean walked up to Scott and took out his ear monitor and said something into his ear. I thought, 'Oh maybe it'™s all just a technical issue with Scott'™s monitor and he'™s not wasted.� Scott seemed to start off okay, a little bit off, but then by the time they got to the acoustic section, he was behind the beat and sounded like a sloppy drunk guy singing at a wedding.
The band kept trying to kind of pause and try to follow Scott or give him a chance to find the right part, but he just seemed to keep changing to different parts of the song. I saw Robert look at Dean and shake his head, as if to say, 'this isn'™t going to be salvagable� and then, finally, the Deleos took off their instruments and walked to the side of the stage. Kretz keep drumming and Weiland seemed oblivious to the fact that there was no more guitar and bass. He keep kind of improvising on the melody and singing until Kretz played an ending-of-the-song kind of drum thing to try to signal to Scott to wrap it up, but he kept singing a bit after that. Then Kretz got up and walked right past Scott without looking at him or touching him, and off the stage on the same side that the Deleos went. Scott finally then walked off stage on the other side.
The lights went down and I really didn'™t think that they'™d even try to do an encore. A little while later, Weiland walks back onstage and starts to introduce Piece of Pie. The rest of the band comes on and Dean stops and says something in Scott'™s ear and then Scott drunkingly mumbles something like, 'No piece of pie for yooooou. This is Trippin.� Then they go into Trippin'™ and Scott seems to just barely be able to keep up with the song and seems to fall behind a bit. I thought it was odd though, that during these songs where everything was going wrong, Scott almost seemed oblivious to the fact that he was messing up. It'™s like he kept right on dancing and posing and singing like he thought he was doing great. He never looked embarrassed or frustrated. You'™d think he would'™ve tried to play it off by saying 'Oops, I messed that up.� or somehow acknowledge that the song got screwed up. He even said something, I think it was right before DAB, about 'You might just be the best audience ever.� And Dean said something about 'Do you wanna play the Rave with us?�
Anyway, after Trippin'™ the band starts to walk to the front of the stage to say their goodbyes and bow and everything. Dean is the first to get up front and I distinctly saw him mouth 'Sorry� to the audience and kind of wave. Then Weiland gets up front followed by Kretz and Robert and I was actually suprised that they all stood so close to Scott after all of this. But again, Weiland, seemed oblivious to the disaster. He'™s up there, head high like he just rocked the place, patting his hand over his heart, kind of like 'You guys are so great, I'™m touched.� and then does this dramatic salute. Then the Deleos and Kretz walk off to one side of the stage again and Weiland says something into the mic that I couldn'™t understand (from the other posts, it seems to be something about cocksucker blues) and then exits on the opposite side. And now we all wait to hear what the aftermath of this is going to be. My guess is that the Deleos & Kretz just let it fly because they just accept that Scott'™s gonna have his good days and his bad days and that'™s just something they'™re gonna have to deal with to have STP. Weiland will probably just say something about how it'™s an unpredictable rock n roll show or blame it on equipment issues. But, who knows'¦
fredisidle posted this:
The Deleo'™s deserve a lot of credit here'¦ They gave Scott every chance tonight, you could tell they had some code to tell him when he was out of sync. They kept going over by Kretz and trying to get the song back on track. Also, the audio guys just lowered Scott'™s mic volume until it sounded better, which seemed to cover up most of the problem until the meltdown on Dead and Bloated. To the normal person, it probably just looked like Scott was having a great time.
After Sex Type Thing, Dead and Bloated, and Lounge Fly all went south and the Deleo'™s walked off clearly not happy'¦ but they came back to do Trippin'™ even though they seemed embarrased by Scott and wanted to just leave. They are classy people and deserve a lot of credit for trying to do whats right for the fans.
I think a lot of the crowed was plastered, and marginal STP fans, so the tweets might just be reflective of what your moderate STP fan would think.
nicks posted this:
OK. Sorry. Scott was fucking up words for a good part of the show. When it got to D&B he totally forgot them and the melody. DeLeos were just looking at each other and stopped playing. Robert walked almost off stage. Kretz finally stopped but Scott was just signing mumble jumbles. Dean pulled Scott'™s monitors and he actually sounded better after that, but they ended up quitting the song.
They went to Lounge Fly, but Robert and Dean looked really reluctant. Scott was still messing it up and just into the acoustic part, both DeLeos walked off. Kretz soon followed.
A couple minutes later they all came back on. Scott tried to introduce Po'™P, but then said Trippin. They played that OK, but you could see the disgust in the D'™s faces.
After that they did the group waving goodbye/thank you thing. The 3 walked off to the left. Scott grabbed a mic, said something like 'boys & girls, ladies & Gentlemen, cocksuckers'¦ï¿½ then walked off to the right.
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Re: STP Walks out on Scott at Show
MAN! That was painful to watch, this coming a huge fan of the group. I love the band and everything they've released throughout the years... But, I guess it may be safe to say that we're watching the possible self-destruction of Stone Temple Pilots on this forthcoming tour, the DeLeos did not look happy with this crap.
Re: STP Walks out on Scott at Show
Seemed to start ok, then got bad. He definitely lost sync a few times. Either he's on something, drunk, or just isn't rehearsing at all with the band (Didn't VR say something like that).
Anyway, seems kinda fishy though he manages almost a whole show good (from what people said in the writeup). Then the last 3 songs stunk. Just calling it like I see it. Could be a PR thing.
Re: STP Walks out on Scott at Show
Seemed to start ok, then got bad. He definitely lost sync a few times. Either he's on something, drunk, or just isn't rehearsing at all with the band (Didn't VR say something like that).
Anyway, seems kinda fishy though he manages almost a whole show good (from what people said in the writeup). Then the last 3 songs stunk. Just calling it like I see it. Could be a PR thing.
Yeah, it's like a switch went off during that song because everything was going just fine and then all of a sudden he lost it. I don't know, maybe he just reached the "blackout" stage from the booze at that point.
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Re: STP Walks out on Scott at Show
Yeah i don't think anyone would do that for PR to that level.
I think as faldor said if its substances of any kind it might just be that the full effects kicked in at that point and he went from being able to function in the song, to not being able to.
You can see the band is really trying to work with him for a bit. Like cover it with jams and stuff, but he's just too far gone.
It's a real shame, because while I didn't think scott was the best foil for slash in VR, he's definately a talented guy, and the older he gets the worse it is for him to be loosing his shit like this. I hope he gets well.
Re: STP Walks out on Scott at Show
Seemed to start ok, then got bad. He definitely lost sync a few times. Either he's on something, drunk, or just isn't rehearsing at all with the band (Didn't VR say something like that).
Anyway, seems kinda fishy though he manages almost a whole show good (from what people said in the writeup). Then the last 3 songs stunk. Just calling it like I see it. Could be a PR thing.
He was seen drinking throughout the show. That could be it.
He's played Dead And Bloated many times recently (every show) and done it just fine. It's not a lack of rehearsal.
I kinda hope it is just a ploy and he's only doing it for PR. If not, he shouldn't be fronting STP. Those guys are incredibly professional and they don't need to be putting up with that bullshit from him.
Re: STP Walks out on Scott at Show
Yeah i don't think anyone would do that for PR to that level.
I think as faldor said if its substances of any kind it might just be that the full effects kicked in at that point and he went from being able to function in the song, to not being able to.
That just seems like the most logical explanation to me. I've reached that level so many times. I'm drinking and feeling good, pretty coherent, then all of a sudden BAM! I mean it seems drastic sitting here watching it, but it's completely feasible. The major problem if that is the case is his sobriety. Is he supposedly clean right now? Or is he just supposedly in control? Either way, he doesn't seem to be all there in that clip.
