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Re: Malkovich, McDormand & Jeong in 'Transformers 3
Yeah but I though 13 was equally bad, although tbh I only saw them each once and didn't really love any of them, although 11 was pretty good i guess.
Re: Malkovich, McDormand & Jeong in 'Transformers 3
I gotta say I really enjoy the first Transformers movie, hated the second. I get that Transformers fans don't like it that frequently, but I do. I think it would be really weird to see a trilogy that's best films were 1st and 3rd, almost always the 2nd installment stands out.
Smokey and The Bandit I & III were better than II imo.
Jurassic Park I & III were better than Lost World.
Back To The Future Parts I & III were better than II imo (not by much tho).
Halloween I & III are better than II.
Nightmare On Elm Street 1 & 3 were better than 2.
Those are the only ones I can think of.
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Re: Malkovich, McDormand & Jeong in 'Transformers 3
I've never seen the Smokey and the Bandit movies. I disagree about Jurassic Park, I think 2 and 3 are both equally mediocre, especially compared to 1. BTTF you might be right on, although I think of them as being pretty consistent (haven't seen the sequels in forever though). I HATE Halloween 3!! You mean Season of the Witch, that doesn't even have Myers in it? Wow, and the NOES I've never seen 3.
Re: Malkovich, McDormand & Jeong in 'Transformers 3
Halloween III is a greatly underrated film. It's probably the best Halloween sequel, despite Myers absence. Just a good horror film. I know alot of people can't get past the name, but I think it's one of the truest Halloween films in spirit and atmosphere. The commentary on media in an ironic twist resonates very much to the modern day too.
I look at Halloween III & Chinese Democracy in the same kind of sense. CD doesn't have the real GN'R, but its a great Guns record.
BTTF, was pretty consistent. When I say I & III were better than II, is in the sense that if someone had a shotgun at my nuts and said "BTTF I or II", i'd say 1. If someone did the same threat and said "BTTF II or III", i'd say III.
But they are all equally great films.
You should check out NOES3. Highly regarded, and by far the best NOES film imo.
Re: Malkovich, McDormand & Jeong in 'Transformers 3
Smokey and The Bandit I & III were better than II imo.
Karma for trying to bring Smokey & the Bandit into the fight, but dude, III was garbage. I just saw that a few weeks ago & was laughing at how terrible it was. BTW apparently there's some theory/urban legend that Jackie Gleason originally played both the cop & the bandit somehow (or something). But after some test screenings audiences were confused about the ending, so the studio quickly reshot the Bandits scenes with someone else playing the bandit. I saw it on IMDB & people seem to swear to it.
Anyway CC I agree 13 wasn't stellar, but I thought it was legitimately better than 12. 11 rocked though, one of my favorite movies all time.
Re: Malkovich, McDormand & Jeong in 'Transformers 3
Axlin08 wrote:Smokey and The Bandit I & III were better than II imo.
Karma for trying to bring Smokey & the Bandit into the fight, but dude, III was garbage. I just saw that a few weeks ago & was laughing at how terrible it was. BTW apparently there's some theory/urban legend that Jackie Gleason originally played both the cop & the bandit somehow (or something). But after some test screenings audiences were confused about the ending, so the studio quickly reshot the Bandits scenes with someone else playing the bandit. I saw it on IMDB & people seem to swear to it.
Anyway CC I agree 13 wasn't stellar, but I thought it was legitimately better than 12. 11 rocked though, one of my favorite movies all time.
I liked III for the 'Gleason factor'. Despite it's obvious flaws, he was still just as great and enjoyable to watch as Buford T. Justice. I didn't care for the Snowman ("Bandit")/Dusty scenes, but the stuff with Buford & Junior was great as always.
I just felt II was a bit too drama for my tastes, and III got back down to business. It didn't over think itself like II did. II was too dramatic in some ways. The whole thing with Bandit & Frog and their relationship, Bandit's alcoholism, the elephant thing was too far-fetched, and Dom DeLuise's part was written just for one of Burt's buddies to be in the film, not really serving any purpose.
III was more stripped down like I. Just a straight up challenge by the Enis's for kicks. Miami to Texas, in 48 hours. Except the roles were reverse. Bandit was chasing the Smokey.
As for that urban myth... it was true. It was originally titled "Smokey IS The Bandit", and was conceptually a Smokey and the Bandit sequel, with Jackie Gleason reviving his schtick from the Jackie Gleason Show. Similar in fashion to Reginald Van Justice & Gaylord Justice at the end of II, but on a bigger scale. He was supposed to play The Bandit and Buford, and also some other characters. It was actually filmed, partially. Test audiences hated it, and wanted the Bandit back. But Burt Reynolds had chosen to do Stroker Ace with Bandit I & II director Hal Needham, instead of doing III, which Needham had no interest in. So they brought in Jerry Reed, did this temporary-replacement thing, and had Reynolds cameo at the end.
All of the Buford scenes had already been shot. If you go back and watch it, you can see some choppy editing in places, where you had original shots, then reshoots. Obviously anytime that Jackie Gleason & Jerry Reed were on-screen together, they were all re-shoots.
