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Neemo
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Re: PC or Mac? Why?

Neemo wrote:

spybot isnt antivirus though

i run spybot, adaware and avira

and all you mac users..you realize that when mac sells enough systems that there will be viruses devolped for those systems right?

like 10% (or so) of the world uses mac.

There are many programs that dont support mac. you can always make a pc emulate anything...i know someone who was running OSX on his pc for a while to check it out...anyway whatever if you wanna buy a mac then buy it...personally they arent my cup of tea..there will always be cavaliers for one brand over the other and chances are you've already decided to get a mac over a PC...

anyway youve already alluded to it crashdiet but with a mac you are paying for the name, more than the hardware IMO...and be careful when you read the comparisons to the mac vs the pc...ive seen it happen a few times before where they compare a mac system to a pc system that isnt of the same level

kinda like comparing a 286 to a pentium III 16

mickronson
 Rep: 118 

Re: PC or Mac? Why?

mickronson wrote:


look how people 'get out and push'  loll
sorry I dont have anything else to input I dont use either.

bigbri
 Rep: 341 

Re: PC or Mac? Why?

bigbri wrote:

There is a reason that over the years the Microsoft operating systems have gotten closer and closer to Mac ops. Because Mac is easier, more intuitive and virtually glitch-free. Every time they release a new operating system, people say how much closer to a Mac system it is. Why?

At work, I have two desktops in my cubicle. A Mac and a PC. My PC crashes or freezes or something like that at least once a day, sometimes more. I can have my Mac on for months, and nothing.

Plus, yeah, the viruses. No viruses really target Macs because Macs are in the minority. Doesn't make them worse just because not as many people use them.

apex-twin
 Rep: 200 

Re: PC or Mac? Why?

apex-twin wrote:

Mac.

My needs for a tabletop computer are largely dictated by resources in video editing. From a professional point of view, I've found the Final Cut Pro editing suite to be a dead ringer to its PC counterpart, Adobe Premiere Pro. Mac also provides with wider array of compatibility, and switching suites by carrying the material around with an external hard drive is ridiculously simple. Add solid support for High-Definition video and I see no practical reason to revert back to PC. For the record, I'm not against APP; I merely find the overall working environment of Mac OS X vastly superior to Vista.

Microsoft lost me after they popularized the NT family OS' in the wake of Windows 2000. While XP still worked hard to cling onto the good sides of its predecessors, most significant being overall portability, the monster which is Vista finally snapped the camels back. I'm not holding my breath on Windows 7, as Vista will take another year to be in reasonable shape when installed to a brand-new computer. W7 is something for 2012 to check out, I think.

-Jack-
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Re: PC or Mac? Why?

-Jack- wrote:

Sounds like you guys just have crappy PCs big_smile. I've never had mine crash/freeze etc. hmm

Also, for PCs Anti-Malwarebytes is very important! check it out

apex-twin
 Rep: 200 

Re: PC or Mac? Why?

apex-twin wrote:
-Jack- wrote:

Sounds like you guys just have crappy PCs big_smile.

Crappy is a relative term. The PC hardware has a generally short lifespan if you're into keeping it cutting-edge. Furthermore, one thing I love about Mac's is the uniform hardware design. The strength of a PC is that you can basically compile your combination of choice from the ground up, gaining theoretically maximum proficiency and the best worth to your dime.

The downside is, that Frankenstein monster may not be the most stable puzzle when set against the Windows OS, let alone the various programs, codecs, et al, which I personally need in my daily work. The Vista compatibility with various pieces of hardware is the longest-running industry joke of the 21st century, and it wasn't any fun even at the get-go.

You can't get all that many Mac's. There are pros and cons to the closed build. Updating those sons of bitches can be a pain. The definite upside is, you get more or less guaranteed compatibility with different programs / hardware, because with a Mac, you simply don't face a miasma of components and manufacturers you do with PC's.

-Jack- wrote:

I've never had mine crash/freeze etc. hmm

Have you tried doing anything aside playing Solitaire with it? wink

Neemo
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Re: PC or Mac? Why?

Neemo wrote:

like what? i mean i have some freezes from now and then but its usually nothing major...and more program crashes than anything...i dont htink my windows has locked up since windows '98

i'm on a computer all day every day...i mean i dont tweak bios settings and all that shit, i get it going and i do work...autocad, photoshop, excel, word, outlook, IE, etc...i use vista and it runs like a charm.... maybe mac users are just more prone to surfing bad porn sites? 16

apex-twin
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Re: PC or Mac? Why?

apex-twin wrote:
Neemo wrote:

like what?

The most ridiculous defense for PC's I've ever heard is the argument that when you install too many bits of software to your computer, you shouldn't wonder why it freezes. Too bad, I say. Windows has always touted its efficiency in multitasking, which has time and again proven to be a bad joke when push comes to shove. The sucker has a bad historical habit of maintaining secondary processes in the system memory, which do little to help the overall performance (and even less the tasks at hand) and more often than not, allows all sorts of doohickeys do their thing without even consulting the user.

Windows can't maintain multiple programs without the overall performance eventually eroding, as when one process goes down, it often takes the house down with it. Sloppy, sloppy. The NT kernel supporting preemptive multitasking piqued with Windows 2000 and went downhill from there. With XP, you were already able to freeze the whole thing because of one piece of misguided computing. All available processing capability going into solving an unfixable loop is no good. The user needs to be able to call it quits and the OS needs to be ready to respond. Sorry.

Why do Windows' freeze? That's the question of the century. Fair enough, it works well enough when you don't try to do anything too demanding on it. To quote one Microsoft bigwig, Vista buys you a "$2,100 e-mail machine". In my experience, anything in terms of graphics processing or rendering requires more than what most the Microsoft family software can abide. The software/hardware compatibility is oft way too unstable for extended uptime periods. But hey, why use that third-party piece of code to begin with - why not stick to things that've been proved to work in the Redmond compound? Maybe it's because the officially approved software is fundamentally inadequate to suite the specific end-user requirements and you sometimes do need to venture out to get the job done.

It's all about personal requirements, really. To me, Windows is generally bad news and this comes from a decade of experiences with various iterations of the OS, with different computer setups in different environments. The 2K version was the best, and XP is mostly good, so I'm not fanatically anti-Windows, thank you very much.

Neemo wrote:

maybe mac users are just more prone to surfing bad porn sites? 16

Wouldn't know about that. I use Linux for the basics.

Neemo
 Rep: 485 

Re: PC or Mac? Why?

Neemo wrote:

at any given time i have autocad, word, excel, outlook, IE, photoshop, several images and god knows what else opened on my pc...and i rarely if ever crash...like i said its usually a software crash more than a PC crash...

have you ever heard of backing up or cleaning out the PC? defrag it once in a while especially after you install or delete somethign major? one thing the PC needs is large spaces of free memory so it can randomly access it and store the data temporarily on the drive to move things around...the smaller the spaces the more the computer has to "look" for the optimal temporary position for the files, thus timeouts and "slow" computer syndrome...freeing up harddrive space and defragging is usually the easiest way to keep the computer running smooth...obviously its what makes worms such a pain...its constantly attacthign itself to shit and as such they are constantly rewriting files to the disk..eventually the spaces get used up...same with heavy web browsing...everythign you do on the net is stored in temporary internet folders....empty them once in a while...it wont kill ya  to reenter a few passwords

also if you have a problem its far more effective to shut down and restart a pc than just rebooting it...do it the old dinosaur way...shut down than, after the fan stops, count 1 one thousand, two one thousand..up to ten then power up again...beauty

back to defragging...when a file is temporarily moved then finally placed in its "permanent" place...the harddrive treats that temp space as "used" for purposes of the next file thats changed or added..so even though you have x amount of "free" memory the computer may not use it to its full effectiveness....

...or something like that 16 please correct me if i'm wrong

Neemo
 Rep: 485 

Re: PC or Mac? Why?

Neemo wrote:

anyway at the end of the day...AutoCAD makes my world go around and Autodesk doesnt support Mac so the remaining choices for me are pretty simple 16

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