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Re: Kid set on fire for $40

Oh, so I'm a "wuss" because I do not consider punching them in the fucking face is the best solution?

How original.

mickronson
 Rep: 118 

Re: Kid set on fire for $40

mickronson wrote:

There is no justice in the world anymore thanks to the 'pissy brigade'
I got a good wack or 2 with the belt when I was a shithead, and I never did it again..I certainly never set my dad on fire in revenge..
I went on to actually work, obey the law and in general be a decent person..
Cant see much of that today

gnfnraxl
 Rep: 43 

Re: Kid set on fire for $40

gnfnraxl wrote:
Handsome B. Wonderful wrote:

Oh, so I'm a "wuss" because I do not consider punching them in the fucking face is the best solution?

How original.

No you're a wuss cause you say that the only solution is psychiatric hel^p.  I did not say punching them in the face was the only solution or a solution.  I said I would have them do hard time.  I'd give them at least 25 years in jail.  At 15 you know the difference between right and wrong.  Nowadays when a fucking psycho does something like this immediately they plead insanity and they get nothing.  I say fuck that.  If he doesn't know the difference between right and wrong then lock him up in a psychiatric center for a real long time.  Dahmer killed and hate people.  Did he need psychiatric help?  Probably but it was not the only solution.  And that is why I called uou a wuss cause you immediately jumped on the insane wagon.  Is it clearer now?

And like Mickronson said.  I wouldn't have done something like that cause I know the consequences I would've had.  And my father never laid a hand on me.  But he also taught me respect, and to be a decent person.  And even though he never laid a hand on me I know that had I done something like that.  Then I would have hoped to be locked up in jail forever cause the treatment I would've had would've been worst.

Axlin16
 Rep: 768 

Re: Kid set on fire for $40

Axlin16 wrote:

Dahmer was evil.

His 'psychiatric' help was simply studying him for science. There is no rehabilitating that.

Any child that participates in a torturous activity of another human being, is evil. Now and always. You either lock it away or kill it.

But I still feel the parents should hold responsibility. In this case you might have evil, but in some of the more anti-social PD situations, we need to start holding the parents more accountable. It starts at home.

gnfnraxl
 Rep: 43 

Re: Kid set on fire for $40

gnfnraxl wrote:
Axlin08 wrote:

Dahmer was evil.

His 'psychiatric' help was simply studying him for science. There is no rehabilitating that.

Any child that participates in a torturous activity of another human being, is evil. Now and always. You either lock it away or kill it.

But I still feel the parents should hold responsibility. In this case you might have evil, but in some of the more anti-social PD situations, we need to start holding the parents more accountable. It starts at home.

And I said in an earlier post that the parents should be held accountable as well.  To them psychiatric help could be the solution.  The judicial system is taking it way too easy when it comes to kids that are between 14 and 17.  Those kids will probably get a couple years in a detention center and that will be it.  And trust me it's not enough for evil people like that.  At 15 I say send them to jail.  Atleast when it's a crime like that.

Communist China
 Rep: 130 

Re: Kid set on fire for $40

To respond with violence, if it improves anything, will be a temporary improvement. They'll quite down until they are old enough and independent enough to hurt people more than people can hurt them. It just teaches violence as a parenting method.

mickronson
 Rep: 118 

Re: Kid set on fire for $40

mickronson wrote:

kids today have no fear.. they know nothing is going to happen to them, nothing worth a piss anyway..  someone with nothing to fear/lose is a dangerous person to deal with.

Communist China
 Rep: 130 

Re: Kid set on fire for $40

As an 18 year old, having been 3 years younger only 3 years ago, I can say firmly that I and my friends feared consequences for our actions. Don't make the generalization that today's youth have lost all fear, it isn't true. Sure, there is a little less pressure on kids today, but that lessened pressure is a result of the actions to get rid of peer pressure and clique mentalities in schools.

Stepvhen
 Rep: 58 

Re: Kid set on fire for $40

Stepvhen wrote:
Axlin08 wrote:
Communist China wrote:

I'm so sick of this Lord of the Flies shit. I really don't know what to do about it, and before someone suggests it, having the parents beat the hell out of their kids is not a solution.

It all starts with the parents.

No i'm not talking about "spoil the rod", i'm talking more about communication and smart parenting.

Try the parents for attempted murder. Make some examples. Things will change.

It all starts with society. The problems are deep rooted

Re: Kid set on fire for $40

gnfnraxl wrote:

I did not say punching them in the face was the only solution or a solution.

Yes, you did.

You said "that it'd definitely be a start" in response to what Tommie said.

If believing that (closed!) psychiatric help is the only option makes me a wuss... So be it.

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