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Re: Who REALLY wrote Chinese Democracy
Paul helped get a lot of the base credits etc together which were extensive. He's always had a good memory on that stuff and it's generally important to him to be as ethical as he's capable which is invaluable. -Axl
Let's put Paul's memory to the test.
1. Chinese Democracy
Album credits: Axl, Josh Freese
ASCAP: Axl, Josh Freese, Robin, Tommy, Dizzy, Paul, Eric Caudieux and Caram Costanzo
2. Shackler's Revenge
Album credits: Axl, Buckethead, Caram Costanzo, Brain and Pete Scaturro
ASCAP: Axl, Buckethead, Robin, Caram Costanzo, Brain and Pete Scaturro
3. Better
Album credits: Axl, Robin
ASCAP: Axl, Robin
4. Street of Dreams
Album credits: Axl, Dizzy and Tommy
ASCAP: Axl, Dizzy, Tommy, Robin and Paul
5. If The World
Album credits: Axl, Chris
ASCAP: Axl, Chris
6. There Was A Time
Album credits: Axl, Paul and Dizzy
ASCAP: Axl, Paul, Tommy and Dizzy
7. Catcher in the Rye
Album credits: Axl and Paul
ASCAP: Axl, Paul, Robin, Dizzy and Tommy
8. Scraped
Album credits: Axl, Buckethead and Caram Costanzo
ASCAP: Axl, Buckethead and Caram Costanzo
9. Riad and the Bedouins
Album credits: Axl, Tommy
ASCAP: Axl, Tommy, Robin, Dizzy and Paul
10. Sorry
Album credits: Axl, Buckethead, Brain and Pete Scaturro
ASCAP: Axl, Buckethead, Brain and Pete Scaturro
11. IRS
Album credits: Axl, Paul and Dizzy
ASCAP: Axl, Paul and Dizzy
12. Madagascar
Album credits: Axl, Chris
ASCAP: Axl, Chris and Martin Luther King
13. This I Love
Album credits: Axl
ASCAP: Axl
14. Prostitute
Album credits: Axl, Paul
ASCAP: Axl, Paul and Robin
Therefore:
Robin - Six additional credits (total of seven)
Dizzy - Three additional credits (total of six)
Tommy - Three additional credits (total of five)
Paul - Two additional credits (total of seven)
Suddenly, Robin comes up as one of the main songwriters in the band. Whoops!
Re: Who REALLY wrote Chinese Democracy
the MKL credit may have been a stipulation for the use of the quotes? as long as CD sells copies MLK's estate gets $$$ correct?
Yep. Now we know he actually had to get permission to use it, and also credit his estate. That had always been open to debate for years.
Re: Who REALLY wrote Chinese Democracy
to answer my own question....here is the much debated Estranged.
2. ESTRANGED (Title Code: 350180431)
Writers:
HUDSON SAUL
MC KAGAN DUFF ROSE
ROSE W AXL
STRADLIN IZZY
Performers:
GUNS AND ROSES
GUNS N ROSES
GUNS N' ROSES
Variations:
ESTRANGED AXL ROSE
Publishers/Administrators:
BLACK FROG MUSIC
% UNIVERSAL POLYGRAM INTERNATIONAL PUBLISHING INC
99440 COLLECTIONS CENTER DRIVE
CHICAGO, IL, 60693
Tel. (310) 235-4700
GUNS N' ROSES MUSIC
% SUSSMAN & ASSOCIATES
ATTN: CHARLES SUSSMAN
1222 16 AVE SOUTH
THIRD FLOOR
NASHVILLE
Re: Who REALLY wrote Chinese Democracy
November Rain:
Writers:
HUDSON SAUL
MC KAGAN DUFF ROSE
ROSE W AXL
STRADLIN IZZY
Interesting. These ASCAP statistics may call into question his actual skills as a songwriter. All his "babies" required the usual help.
Not knocking him. He's obviously talented but the real facts do change things a bit.