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maguire22
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Re: Could there now be a breakthrough rock band in their 40's+?

maguire22 wrote:

Just occurred to me that by now the only way for this punter to be a in a band was to train as a drummer 14 and then y'know they'd fire me the minute a deal got signed...

Just wondering, if a band broke now aged say 42 max (not QUITE my age 14) would you buy it?

Would they get signed?

My questions is based off the fact Aerosmith, and... oh just so many others are  - not young! 16

Your thoughts? 22

(Should add I played a bit of bass once, but now have NO further territorial ambitions in the music industry. 14)

Axlin16
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Re: Could there now be a breakthrough rock band in their 40's+?

Axlin16 wrote:

It's very hard, because music has become so image-based, and less on ability.

Umm, wasn't Gwen Stefani pretty up there in age when she broke through?

Olorin
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Re: Could there now be a breakthrough rock band in their 40's+?

Olorin wrote:

I would but, kids on the other hand? Unlikely. I couldnt give a feck how old people are.

I likes what I like, man, Pink Floyd were retired before I discovered them.

I'd love to see pop artists appearing in the mold of Bonnie Tyler, I'm no fan but I can see that she made it on account of her voice, not the size of dress she fit into. She wouldnt get the opportunity nowadays.

monkeychow
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Re: Could there now be a breakthrough rock band in their 40's+?

monkeychow wrote:
maguire22 wrote:

Just occurred to me that by now the only way for this punter to be a in a band was to train as a drummer

Excellent! Keep doing it brother...it's such a great outlet big_smile

maguire22 wrote:

Just wondering, if a band broke now aged say 42 max (not QUITE my age 14) would you buy it?

I personally would. But then i'm 32 so maybe not your target demographic.

I will buy any album if the music is kickass, and if the band puts on a good live show.

So as long as you can still put in a good show at 42 then I wouldn't have an issue with it.

Depends on the genre I think too. Like I don't want to see a 42 yo Britney doing those dances (although madonna seems to lol) - but in rock and metal I don't think age is as big a deal.

maguire22 wrote:

Would they get signed?

Depends. I mean realisticly a HUGE amount of the music industy is about age, looks and image these days. And that's just a sad fact. So there is no question in my mind it would be tougher for you than if you guys were 20 and had someone with soapopera star looks in the band.

But that said, on some level a good song is a good song, and if the music was full on killer, you might be able to swing enough of the bands image away from looks to get away with it.

Especially if you guys are just standard looking, its amazing what a bit of wardrobe, some cool lighting and goodbackground music can do for a band wink

Another issue these days is do you want to get signed? If you have a look into royalty rates you'll see that basicly the record labels take most of the profits.

Now that recording is cheaper, you could investigate paying for your own records (especially if guys in the band are financial being in their 30s/40s) and then just getting pro help with distribution and marketing and stuff. The Keeping your own copyrights approach. You wont get the same level of exposure. But a small hardcore fan base can actually work out better than a lot of fickle fnas where a corporation takes like all of the profits as their cut!

maguire22 wrote:

My questions is based off the fact Aerosmith, and... oh just so many others are  - not young! 16

Yes. Although its worth remembering, while aerosmith, Ac/Dc and now metallica and stuff are not spring chickens, they were when they became famous.

Like maybe Ac/DC can kick ass at 60 (well they do!) but like can a no-one at 60 convince people he rocks as hard - without 30 years of hits behind him? It's definately a challange.

Anyway....I think if your act is original and not generic, if it kicks ass , and it's musically good, it can be done. Maybe not like 'pop' success like being in all the teen girl magazines, but I think you could still find a market. Just my 2c of course...but maybe thats a dream i need to keep cos i'm looking at getting more serious with my music.

TheMole
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Re: Could there now be a breakthrough rock band in their 40's+?

TheMole wrote:
monkeychow wrote:

but like can a no-one at 60 convince people he rocks as hard - without 30 years of hits behind him? It's definately a challange.

Yeah, maybe someone like seasick Steve, or some other type of act where the age fits the image can pull it off but for plain old rock it's going to become somewhat more difficult. Not in the least 'cause the type of music you can convincingly bring is probably outdated for young folks anyway...

jorge76
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Re: Could there now be a breakthrough rock band in their 40's+?

jorge76 wrote:
Axlin08 wrote:

It's very hard, because music has become so image-based, and less on ability.

Umm, wasn't Gwen Stefani pretty up there in age when she broke through?

Upper 20's I think.  If I remember correctly No Doubt had been around in various incarnations for years.  I know at one point her brother was the singer. 

I think the fact that once the hot chick started singing they broke is pretty relevant to the conversation though. 

I just googled it, it looks like she just turned 40 a couple days ago.

maguire22
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Re: Could there now be a breakthrough rock band in their 40's+?

maguire22 wrote:

Interesting replies, thx. 22

I remember a lot of people said Garbage only broke through because they had a hot , and young, chick singing, I dunno, nothing solid planned right now but I'll keep you posted if I ever get serious about it all! wink

Communist China
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Re: Could there now be a breakthrough rock band in their 40's+?

jorge76 wrote:
Axlin08 wrote:

It's very hard, because music has become so image-based, and less on ability.

Umm, wasn't Gwen Stefani pretty up there in age when she broke through?

Upper 20's I think.  If I remember correctly No Doubt had been around in various incarnations for years.  I know at one point her brother was the singer. 

I think the fact that once the hot chick started singing they broke is pretty relevant to the conversation though. 

I just googled it, it looks like she just turned 40 a couple days ago.

Gwen Stefani turned 40 on Saturday. So... no, hahaha. She is officially "a hot 40+ woman".

Um, personally I would be hesitant because I like music I can relate to, so it'd have to be both sensible to a young crowd and also not appear 'fake'. If it was strong material I'd probably be into it but it'd be hard to get a big number of people to like it.

A ballad always works, though.

BLS-Pride
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Re: Could there now be a breakthrough rock band in their 40's+?

BLS-Pride wrote:

If you look at pop music most of the writers of those hit songs are up there in age. But the image thing is why you have beautiful girls with some talent making all the money over the normal looking chick making actual music.

As for a rock band? If this was about 20 years ago maybe. But now it would be real rough considering the age gap but then rock isn't as popular at the moment. Maybe that's what rock needs though.. A band that has age and has been around the block and can deliver that bluesy sleezy rock n' roll that is buried deep down every young soul. Now where could a band like that be?

But seriously not to sound like a dick but it's time to hang up the rock star dream if you are pushing 40 and beyond. But there is no reason why someone couldn' start a band and go on tours and maybe release an album through an indy label or the internet. With no history in the business at the age it's impossible.

maguire22
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Re: Could there now be a breakthrough rock band in their 40's+?

maguire22 wrote:

Seeing the bashing that bona fide rock stars get, I'd prefer to avoid that form of psychological masochism! 16

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