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Axlin16
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Re: The 2009 NFL Season Thread

Axlin16 wrote:
James Lofton wrote:

Bears are gonna have an ugly season. Gonna literally have to take it one week at a time and see how the mop flops. Barely beat the Steelers, and luckily they get Seattle next week but that sure as hell isn't a guaranteed win.

Their upcoming five games are....

Seattle
Detroit
Atlanta
Cincinnati
Cleaveland


They need to go 3-2 during that period because it gets a bit tougher at the midway point. Anything less than 3-2 and they are in trouble.

Other than Seattle, they could easily go 4-1 in that stretch.

tejastech08
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Re: The 2009 NFL Season Thread

tejastech08 wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

True, I meant NYC fans I suppose.  Yeah Buffalo made it 3 for 3, a trifecta I suppose, but NYG & NYJ seemed to do it against their biggest rivals probably, whereas TB probably isn't that high on Buffalos radar.

Tampa isn't that high on ANYONE'S radar. 16

Communist China
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Re: The 2009 NFL Season Thread

Axlin08 wrote:
James Lofton wrote:

Bears are gonna have an ugly season. Gonna literally have to take it one week at a time and see how the mop flops. Barely beat the Steelers, and luckily they get Seattle next week but that sure as hell isn't a guaranteed win.

Their upcoming five games are....

Seattle
Detroit
Atlanta
Cincinnati
Cleaveland


They need to go 3-2 during that period because it gets a bit tougher at the midway point. Anything less than 3-2 and they are in trouble.

Other than Seattle, they could easily go 4-1 in that stretch.

Atlanta's the best team they play in that stretch. Steal a win against Seattle or Atlanta, and play your best in the other 3 and they can go 4-1. But you can't have a bad game, Cincinnati might surprise you (like they did to Green Bay) and you can't let that happen.

buzzsaw
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Re: The 2009 NFL Season Thread

buzzsaw wrote:

I think the Bears are going to be a .500 team.  The first 2 weeks tell you a lot about what they are.  They will play very good defense and keep the team in games.  Some days Cutler will make the plays, other days he won't.  They should be 2-0 right now, but the offense cost them the first game (not all Cutler's fault).  They probably should have lost to Pittsburgh, but the offense made just enough plays to steal a game.  I think that will be the story of the season.  A few extra steals and they can make the playoffs.  A few bad losses and they pick in the top 10 of the draft next year.

buzzsaw
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Re: The 2009 NFL Season Thread

buzzsaw wrote:
Communist China wrote:
Axlin08 wrote:
James Lofton wrote:

Bears are gonna have an ugly season. Gonna literally have to take it one week at a time and see how the mop flops. Barely beat the Steelers, and luckily they get Seattle next week but that sure as hell isn't a guaranteed win.

Their upcoming five games are....

Seattle
Detroit
Atlanta
Cincinnati
Cleaveland


They need to go 3-2 during that period because it gets a bit tougher at the midway point. Anything less than 3-2 and they are in trouble.

Other than Seattle, they could easily go 4-1 in that stretch.

Atlanta's the best team they play in that stretch. Steal a win against Seattle or Atlanta, and play your best in the other 3 and they can go 4-1. But you can't have a bad game, Cincinnati might surprise you (like they did to Green Bay) and you can't let that happen.

I am going to the game in Atlanta - I am really looking forward to it.

misterID
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Re: The 2009 NFL Season Thread

misterID wrote:

That's going to be a good game. I don't think the Bears are going to the superbowl, but they're def going to get better as the season goes on. Atlanta is going to have their hands full.

Axlin16
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Re: The 2009 NFL Season Thread

Axlin16 wrote:
Communist China wrote:
Axlin08 wrote:
James Lofton wrote:

Bears are gonna have an ugly season. Gonna literally have to take it one week at a time and see how the mop flops. Barely beat the Steelers, and luckily they get Seattle next week but that sure as hell isn't a guaranteed win.

Their upcoming five games are....

Seattle
Detroit
Atlanta
Cincinnati
Cleaveland


They need to go 3-2 during that period because it gets a bit tougher at the midway point. Anything less than 3-2 and they are in trouble.

Other than Seattle, they could easily go 4-1 in that stretch.

Atlanta's the best team they play in that stretch. Steal a win against Seattle or Atlanta, and play your best in the other 3 and they can go 4-1. But you can't have a bad game, Cincinnati might surprise you (like they did to Green Bay) and you can't let that happen.

I think people are overshooting what Atlanta can do. We'll see...

Communist China
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Atlanta is 2-0, with both wins against teams that made the playoffs last year. I think we'll know a lot more about that team after this week when they play New England. I know it's not a conference match-up so it doesn't mean a lot in the win/loss column, but both teams can make big statements with a win.

slashsfro
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slashsfro wrote:

http://www.giants.com/news/headlines/st … y_id=42034


Safety Phillips placed on IR
By Michael Eisen, Giants.com


SEPTEMBER 22, 2009



EAST RUTHERFORD, NJ - Kenny Phillips played the best game of his young professional career Sunday night in Dallas. He intercepted two passes, both of which led to Giants touchdowns. He also tied for the team lead with seven tackles, boosting his two-game total to a team-high 16. It seemed Phillips, the Giants' first-round draft choice in 2008, was on his way to a stellar sophomore season.

Instead, that season has come to a shocking early conclusion.

The Giants announced today that Phillips is being placed on injured reserve with a knee condition that first surfaced in training camp. Phillips has seldom practiced in recent weeks and received constant treatment. But an examination yesterday by team doctors and an MRI revealed that the condition (patella femoral arthritis) in Phillips' left knee has worsened. A final determination has not yet been made on how to treat Phillips' condition.

"I really feel for Kenny because he had worked so hard during the offseason to prepare himself for the '09 season," general manager Jerry Reese said. "He had a great camp and was just beginning to come into his own and showed flashes of being one of the premier safeties in the NFL. We expect him to recover from this setback and come back stronger than ever. This league is about making adjustments and we will do that."

The Giants did so immediately when they were awarded Aaron Rouse off waivers from the Green Bay Packers, who released him yesterday. Rouse started the Packers' first two games of the season.

After his outstanding performance in Dallas, it would seem unfathomable that Phillips wouldn't suit up again this season. It certainly was to Phillips.

"It never crossed my mind, ever," he said. "I knew the situation. I just felt I could push it through the season. So to get this news is a real shock."

"The most important thing for us right now is to realize it's an emotional time for Kenny Phillips," said coach Tom Coughlin. "He had an excellent training camp. He played the deep ball, really, unlike anybody we've had around here. He has two interceptions with two outstanding plays the other night, he leads the team in tackles. His presence is felt in really every category on special teams and defense. He was quietly very strong back in the secondary. We were very excited about what we thought could be a Pro Bowl year for our free safety.

"Unfortunately, it's a difficult time for all of us and for Kenny. Our concerns are about Kenny from an emotional standpoint, because this morning he looked like he'd lost his best friend. He's really down. But it's something the doctors felt was needed to be corrected right now, so what's in the best interest of the player is being done. I'm sure he'll rehab and be back with us in the spring."

Phillips was the 31st overall selection in the 2008 draft, the first safety chosen by the Giants on the opening round since Shaun Williams 10 years earlier. As a rookie he played in every game with three starts and finished with 66 tackles (43 solo), seven passes defensed and an interception.

James Butler' departure as a free agent (he now plays for the St. Louis Rams) opened up a starting job for Phillips, who responded by working long hours in the offseason. He showed improvement from the first day of training camp and continued to play well when the season opened.

"That is probably the toughest part - I worked hard this offseason and I felt like this was going to be a big year not only for me, but for the Giants," Phillips said. "I started the season off pretty well with a few tackles, interceptions and for it to just get snatched away from me like this is real tough."

At some point in camp, Phillips' knee became swollen and sore. He missed two of the four preseason games, but he worked as hard at rehabilitation as he did on his conditioning and was able to play well in the Giants' victories over Washington and Dallas.

"It's hard to say exactly when (the knee first hurt)," he said. "Everybody gets nicks and bruises in training camp, so that's just what I thought it was. Swelling occurred, but most people get swelling. As long as it goes down, it's not a big deal.

"For the most part I was able to do the things that I am used to doing. I had a little bit of restriction from time to time, but that was something that I was going to play with, I learned to play with."

This is the first time in Phillips' football life he will miss extensive playing time because of injury.

"I hate to miss out on this season," he said. "We have such a great team I wish I could just be a part of it, helping them out. I know the team is going to support me. They are treating me like family, like I am their son, brothers or whatever. Jerry Reese came down and talked to me, Coach Coughlin, the training staff, everyone has been real supportive of me."

As much as he wants to play, Phillips fully supports the judgment to shut him down for the season.

"I am only in year two, so I feel this is the right decision," he said. "Longevity is the key, so this is why we are going through with it."

What won't be as easy is watching his teammates try to win their second straight NFC East title. But Phillips is determined to re-join them as soon as possible.

"We're only in Week 3, so I don't know how I am going to find a way to cope," he said. "But if anything it makes me want to work even harder. Playing two games, I had a pretty good start and I want to do better than that next year."

"The key is now everyone wants to critique our defensive team at this point in time in terms of being able to defend the run," said Coughlin. "As a team all of us - players and coaches - we all have to do our job a little bit better."

Phillips is the third Giants player to go on injured reserve. Rookie running back Andre Brown ruptured his Achilles tendon in practice on Aug. 14. Defensive tackle Jay Alford suffered a torn ACL in a preseason game in Chicago on Aug. 22.

Rouse, 6-4 and 227 pounds, had nine tackles (seven solo) in Green Bay's 31-24 loss to Cincinnati last week. He had three solo tackles in the season-opening victory over Chicago.

A third-year pro, he has played in 27 games with 11 starts. He has 113 tackles (80 solo), seven passes defensed and four interceptions, including a pick of Peyton Manning that he returned 99 yards for a touchdown last Oct. 19. It was the longest interception return in Lambeau Field history.

Rouse joined the Packers as a 2007 third-round round draft choice from Virginia Tech, the 89th overall selection. As a rookie he played in 11 games with three starts at free safety and had 33 tackles (26 solo) and a pair of interceptions. After missing the first three games with a hamstring injury, Rouse made his NFL debut at Minnesota on Sept. 30, 2007. His first start was also against the Vikings, on Nov. 11. Rouse had two special teams tackles in the NFC Championship Game against the Giants.

In 2008, Rouse played in 14 games with six starts and was third among Packers defensive backs with 68 tackles (44 solo). Aside from his touchdown, he intercepted a pass at New Orleans on Nov. 24.

In 52 games at Virginia Tech, Rouse had 24 starts and recorded 217 tackles (93 solo), 12 stops for losses, forced four fumbles and had five interceptions. A native of Norfolk, Va., Rouse was born on Jan. 8, 1984.

*The same players who missed practice yesterday sat out today's workout: defensive linemen Justin Tuck (shoulder) and Chris Canty (calf), cornerbacks Aaron Ross (hamstring) and Kevin Dockery (hamstring), wide receiver Domenik Hixon (knee), wide reciver Hakeem Nicks (foot) and running back Danny Ware (elbow).

The same three players were limited: Wide receiver Mario Manningham (shoulder), offensive lineman Adam Koets (ankle) and linebacker Clint Sintim (groin).


Sucks for them as he was becoming a solid player for them.

PaSnow
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Re: The 2009 NFL Season Thread

PaSnow wrote:

Yeah, sucks.

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