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Re: Do you think there's such a thing as men's work, and women's work?
kids arent breastfed until they are 4 
average around 8 months or so....maybe up to a year
and you can always feed the kid pumped milk....the man's bond with the children is just as important as the woman's...i'm sure this is not where you wanted this converstaion to go .... i'm just saying
Re: Do you think there's such a thing as men's work, and women's work?
I think maguire's statement was more selfishness than abandonment.
He's just stating he's old school in thinking that it's women's work to get up with the kid, feed the kid, nuture the kid, take care of the kid's diapers... you know - the work.
I'm sure he'd spend time with the kid, if not, well...
I personally disagree with him immensley, but the sad thing is, I see it all the time. You helped create that child, and it's just as much your responsibility to take care of that child, as it is the woman's. 50/50, mother & father.
I spend alot of time around a 2-year old boy, that my mom babysits, and many times I find myself feeding him, taking care of him, making sure he makes it to the bathroom, as well as playing with him, the fun stuff. The kid is totally bonded to me. It's very very very important to create that bond.
And i'm not even related to him. Just goes to show how important bonding is. Many times he calls me "daddy", and I have to remind him i'm not. Don't want that confusion to be there.
The point being, is the child is going to identify 'parent' with who takes care of them.
Re: Do you think there's such a thing as men's work, and women's work?
Yes, some jobs are generally better suited to either men or women. Sometimes it has to do with physical strength (the outrage around these hermaphrodite athletes is there for a reason: women athletes know they can't compete with men in some areas), sometimes it has to do with cultural acceptance, but it does make a difference.
However, this is no reason to not give someone a stab at a job just 'cause of there sex. If you're looking for someone in construction and a lady happens to fit the bill, one has got to be openminded enough to realize this.
There is one thing though that shouldn't be underestimated when the decision to hire someone is made. If you're hiring for a mission critical job that requires one to be permanently available and willing to work on odd hours. A young woman might not be such a good choice 'cause off the maternity issues that might arise. And since you're not allowed to ask whether or not she's planning on having any kids in the next couple of years (that would be a sign of discrimination, you know), you're automatically going to think twice about hiring her.
So, sadly enough, the laws that are supposed to help women gain equal footing in the job market are the very same laws that are reinforcing people's beliefs that you're safer off hiring a guy for the job.
Re: Do you think there's such a thing as men's work, and women's work?
I think maguire's statement was more selfishness than abandonment.
Oh now you're just being a total dick, aren't you?! 
Sheesh, I was just asking what out there, in the world, peeps think is men's work/women's work etc - I HAVE no kids (yet!) but no, I don't personally think a child should be taken from his/her mum, and given dad and formula, you can look up La Leche League and ALL the pro-breastfeeding forums and info, and see that sometimes MAMMAL is a Useful Term!
Why are you on my case? 
Get a grip mate, I'm not stereotyping women as only hot mammas / chicks / babes ...
I spend alot of time around a 2-year old boy, that my mom babysits, and many times I find myself feeding him, taking care of him, making sure he makes it to the bathroom, as well as playing with him, the fun stuff. The kid is totally bonded to me. It's very very very important to create that bond.
You're a good man, and a sound human being - and nothing I asked was about challenging that.
Respect - try reading on the lines, and not between them, okay - I'm NO babyfather and NOT sexist! 
Re: Do you think there's such a thing as men's work, and women's work?
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I just see alot of it in men. They feel it's not their job to do the 'work'.
As long as they put food on the table, their obligation is finished, whether it be kids, marriage, or both. I have BIG problem with that. Neemo apparently does too.
Re: Do you think there's such a thing as men's work, and women's work?
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I just see alot of it in men. They feel it's not their job to do the 'work'.
As long as they put food on the table, their obligation is finished, whether it be kids, marriage, or both. I have BIG problem with that. Neemo apparently does too.
Yeah, I see that going on as well, it's dumb, as far as I'm concerned domestic work should be split evenly as far as possible given the hours each partner works, but then I've lived alone and had to care for myself so realised that housework is pretty much unrewarding drudgery.
My main post was about working outside the home, i should maybe have clarified that though. 
