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Re: KISS Sonic Boom
This may irritate some Kiss fans, but here is one of my pet peeves about this band that happened in adulthood and probably plays a role in the lack of Kiss on my musical palate.
From a music/creative standpoint, this band lacked authenticity. On some of those early Kiss albums, even though Frehley is on the cover and marketed as Kiss, he is NOT playing on the albums. Its Bob Kulick and other session musicians. Gene is not playing bass on several records, including those early 80s albums.
Kiss was an image. A media juggernaut. A way of life for people then. The four people(whichever line up) were not truly the creative unit of the band. If you want Kiss at its purest form, check out their first couple records.
Always thought the story behind Hard Luck Woman was cool. They wrote it for Rod Stewart, who rejected it, then had Peter sing it because he sounds a bit similar to Rod.
The Garth Brooks version also kicks ass.
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^ The thing about Kiss is that they've pretty much always copped to all of that. It's always been about the image more than the music. A lot of other bands are that way, but won't admit it. Kiss wallows in it like a pig in shit.
I remember a while back Gene was on Howard Stern promoting the Kiss coffin. This was in the time period between Jackie and Artie, and they had a comedian named Craig Gass, who does a dead on Gene impression, in that seat.
Gene's talking about the Kiss coffin and Craig, as Gene, says. "Kiss now has a new technology out where we will take your financial information to automatically take money from your account, so you can continue to give us your money even after you die."
Gene seems like a humorless fuck most of the time, but he thought that was hilarious.
Re: KISS Sonic Boom
I like the new Kiss tune,when the album comes out I'll buy it,and most Kiss fans already know that Ace and Peter aren't in the band anymore.
- NY Giants82
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Re: KISS Sonic Boom
This may irritate some Kiss fans, but here is one of my pet peeves about this band that happened in adulthood and probably plays a role in the lack of Kiss on my musical palate.
From a music/creative standpoint, this band lacked authenticity. On some of those early Kiss albums, even though Frehley is on the cover and marketed as Kiss, he is NOT playing on the albums. Its Bob Kulick and other session musicians. Gene is not playing bass on several records, including those early 80s albums.
Kiss was an image. A media juggernaut. A way of life for people then. The four people(whichever line up) were not truly the creative unit of the band. If you want Kiss at its purest form, check out their first couple records.
Always thought the story behind Hard Luck Woman was cool. They wrote it for Rod Stewart, who rejected it, then had Peter sing it because he sounds a bit similar to Rod.
The Garth Brooks version also kicks ass.
While Ace didnt play on every song, he is on every album up to "Creatures of the Night". He isnt on that one. The first album to use 'ghost' musicians was "Destroyer" in 1976.
Re: KISS Sonic Boom
This may irritate some Kiss fans, but here is one of my pet peeves about this band that happened in adulthood and probably plays a role in the lack of Kiss on my musical palate.
From a music/creative standpoint, this band lacked authenticity. On some of those early Kiss albums, even though Frehley is on the cover and marketed as Kiss, he is NOT playing on the albums. Its Bob Kulick and other session musicians. Gene is not playing bass on several records, including those early 80s albums.
Kiss was an image. A media juggernaut. A way of life for people then. The four people(whichever line up) were not truly the creative unit of the band. If you want Kiss at its purest form, check out their first couple records.
"Every rock band wanted to be The Beatles. KISS wanted to be Coca-Cola" - Chuck Klosterman 
True, but aren't alot of bands 'images'? The irony is how much rock copied KISS in the coming decade (80s), including GN'R.
Alice Cooper and KISS can be credited for the elaborate stage shows that were later seen in the 1980s. KISS can be created for fine tuning the melodic rock sound for radio, later seen in the 1980s. KISS can be credited with the flat out merchandising of rock bands, which has become HUGE business, and for some artists is MORE profitable than their music.
They really were the first to exploit the business, and I have no qualms about that. Everyone followed it. Look at Axl 'glaming up' in 1986 for shows. Look at GN'R trying to sell T-shirts and hats in the early days. "Hey Slash, draw a really good logo". All of these people became aware of this because of KISS. It became a requirement by that point.
But at the end of the day, it has to be about the music, and despite the "who did it" aspect of the band's later 70's records, the music was still good. Not great, and VERY VERY VERY commercial, but was still good. Even most people who don't like KISS, admit the singles were good, even into the 80's.
James Lofton wrote:This may irritate some Kiss fans, but here is one of my pet peeves about this band that happened in adulthood and probably plays a role in the lack of Kiss on my musical palate.
From a music/creative standpoint, this band lacked authenticity. On some of those early Kiss albums, even though Frehley is on the cover and marketed as Kiss, he is NOT playing on the albums. Its Bob Kulick and other session musicians. Gene is not playing bass on several records, including those early 80s albums.
Kiss was an image. A media juggernaut. A way of life for people then. The four people(whichever line up) were not truly the creative unit of the band. If you want Kiss at its purest form, check out their first couple records.
Always thought the story behind Hard Luck Woman was cool. They wrote it for Rod Stewart, who rejected it, then had Peter sing it because he sounds a bit similar to Rod.
The Garth Brooks version also kicks ass.
While Ace didnt play on every song, he is on every album up to "Creatures of the Night". He isnt on that one. The first album to use 'ghost' musicians was "Destroyer" in 1976.
I thought it was admitted years later that Vinnie Vincent did lead guitar on Creatures, even tho Ace was credited?
- NY Giants82
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^^Right, thats what I was saying. Creatures was the first album without any contribution from Ace.
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Too much weighing down that other collection...
Here's a KISS collection (don't know if it'll fit on a disc, but it's on my MP3 player playlist)
1. Shandi
2. Tomorrow
3. Creatures of the Night
4. I Love It Loud [live]
5. Lick It Up
6. All Hell's Breakin' Loose
7. Heaven's On Fire
8. Thrills In The Night
9. Who Wants To Be Lonely
10. Trial By Fire
11. Tears Are Falling
12. Uh! All Night
13. Crazy, Crazy Nights
14. Reason To Live
15. Turn On The Night
16. Let's Put The X In Sex
17. You Make Me (Rock Hard)
18. Hide Your Heart
19. Forever
20. You Love Me To Hate You
21. God Gave Rock N' Roll To You II
Now THAT's a KISS collection. 
Re: KISS Sonic Boom
Anyone listen to this steaming dog turd yet? I downloaded it last night and it sounds terrible. Not surprised at all by its lukewarm reaction. They are just going through the motions at this point. This sounds like a rejects album of tracks that didn't make it on to any of those 80s albums. Lyrics are terrible as well.
Danger You
Danger Me
Danger Us
Get out of here with that drivel....
