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Tommie
 Rep: 67 

Re: 4 BOYS charged in Phoenix girl's sex assault...

Tommie wrote:

Oldest boy in assault of girl to be tried as adult

by Amanda Lee Myers - Jul. 23, 2009 04:00 PM
Associated Press

Prosecutors filed sexual assault charges against four boys ages 9 to 14, officials said Thursday, alleging they brutally attacked an 8-year-old girl after luring her to a shed with chewing gum.

Police said the girl's parents criticized her after the violence, blaming her for bringing shame on the family. All five children are refugees from the West African nation of Liberia.

The boys held the girl down while they took turns assaulting her, police said.

“She was brutally sexually assaulted for a period of about 10 to 15 minutes,” police Sgt. Andy Hill said, calling it one of the worst cases the department has investigated.

The 14-year-old boy was charged Wednesday as an adult with two counts of sexual assault and kidnapping, the Maricopa County Attorney's Office said. He's being held without bond.

The other boys — ages 9, 10, and 13 — were charged as juveniles with sexual assault. The 10- and 13-year-old boys also were charged with kidnapping, the office said Thursday.

Authorities said the victim was in the care of Child Protective Services after her parents blamed her for the rapes and bringing shame to the family.

“The father told the case worker and an officer in her presence that he didn't want her back. He said Take her, I don't want her,'” Hill said.

Hill cited the family's background as the reason the family shunned the girl.

In many parts of Africa, women often are blamed for being raped for “enticing” men or simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Girls who are raped often are shunned by their families.

In recent years, Liberia has made efforts to combat rape under the leadership of President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, who has sought to dispel the stigma associated with sexual assault by publicly acknowledging that she was herself the victim of attempted rape during the country's civil war.

Phoenix investigators said the boys lured the girl to an empty shed July 16 under the pretense of offering her chewing gum.

Officers responding to an emergency call reporting hysterical screams found the girl partially clothed and the boys running from the scene.

The boys were being held in a juvenile corrections facility.

“This is a deeply disturbing case that has gripped our community,” Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas said in a news release Thursday. “Our office will seek justice for the young victim in this heartrending situation.”

The girl's healing process will be particularly difficult, said Paul Penzone of Childhelp, which aids young victims of crime.

“These four boys used what was a ploy to entice her to a place where they could take advantage of her almost like a pack of wolves,” he said.

“And what's so disturbing beyond the initial crime is the fact that a child needs to have somewhere to feel safe, and you would think that would be in a home with her own family,” not in state custody, Penzone said.

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I don't even know what to say to this....majorly fucked up.

Stepvhen
 Rep: 58 

Re: 4 BOYS charged in Phoenix girl's sex assault...

Stepvhen wrote:

Yeah its fucked up but Charging a 14 yr old as an adult is just as bad...

Tommie
 Rep: 67 

Re: 4 BOYS charged in Phoenix girl's sex assault...

Tommie wrote:
Stepvhen wrote:

Yeah its fucked up but Charging a 14 yr old as an adult is just as bad...

What?  I don't see your logic.  That 14 year old boy was probably the leader of a group of kids who gangraped an 8 year old girl.

monkeychow
 Rep: 661 

Re: 4 BOYS charged in Phoenix girl's sex assault...

monkeychow wrote:

So fucked up. It's wrongtown that kids are raping kids, and it's very sad that the girl is now estranged and ostracised by her own community for being abused through no fault of her own other than childhood innocence and naivety.

Axlin16
 Rep: 768 

Re: 4 BOYS charged in Phoenix girl's sex assault...

Axlin16 wrote:

The 14-year old boy needs years of psychotherapy. 14 is FAR too young to be charged as an adult. There are things I thought were cool when I was 14, when as an 18-year old, I thought were horrendous (not rape tho, that was always bad).

THE FATHER of the girl, is the one that deserves the death penalty.

Stepvhen
 Rep: 58 

Re: 4 BOYS charged in Phoenix girl's sex assault...

Stepvhen wrote:
CrashDiet wrote:
Stepvhen wrote:

Yeah its fucked up but Charging a 14 yr old as an adult is just as bad...

What?  I don't see your logic.  That 14 year old boy was probably the leader of a group of kids who gangraped an 8 year old girl.

Hes 14 we don't know his mental health / family / social situation. If that was a rich 14 year old white american he wouldnt be tried as an adult

monkeychow
 Rep: 661 

Re: 4 BOYS charged in Phoenix girl's sex assault...

monkeychow wrote:

The crime was fucked but I don't think it's ever appropriate to try children as adults. They're children.

PaSnow
 Rep: 205 

Re: 4 BOYS charged in Phoenix girl's sex assault...

PaSnow wrote:
CrashDiet wrote:
Stepvhen wrote:

Yeah its fucked up but Charging a 14 yr old as an adult is just as bad...

What?  I don't see your logic.  That 14 year old boy was probably the leader of a group of kids who gangraped an 8 year old girl.

I gotta side with Tommie. Try him as an adult, but then consider the boys age while sentencing as well (ie, don't give him 10-15 in prison). He needs much more than a year at juvie hall though.

Stepvhen
 Rep: 58 

Re: 4 BOYS charged in Phoenix girl's sex assault...

Stepvhen wrote:
PaSnow wrote:
CrashDiet wrote:
Stepvhen wrote:

Yeah its fucked up but Charging a 14 yr old as an adult is just as bad...

What?  I don't see your logic.  That 14 year old boy was probably the leader of a group of kids who gangraped an 8 year old girl.

I gotta side with Tommie. Try him as an adult, but then consider the boys age while sentencing as well (ie, don't give him 10-15 in prison). He needs much more than a year at juvie hall though.

Good point that would actually be the best way to deal with it. I hope thats what they have done here

James
 Rep: 664 

Re: 4 BOYS charged in Phoenix girl's sex assault...

James wrote:
CrashDiet wrote:

Police said the girl's parents criticized her after the violence, blaming her for bringing shame on the family. All five children are refugees from the West African nation of Liberia.

I'm tired of this backwards, primitive shit. Send these fuckers(and their kids) back to Africa. Waste the taxpayer money on something else. Give a few American kids health insurance.



Yeah its fucked up but Charging a 14 yr old as an adult is just as bad...

No its not. He brutally raped an 8 year old girl. I don't give a fuck what his reasons for doing it were. A 14 year old going to jail is not as bad as an 8 year old girl being raped. Thats insane.

Its times like this I wish we were the Soviet Union. Back then, when shit like this happened, after the trial he would have been taken to a back room and immediately shot in the head. Instead. us tax payers get to foot this guy's tab in jail, and he wont even do much time. He'll be raping more kids in a few years.

Luckily for you, you don't live in his area, or you or your family would be at risk. If he was raping a member of your family, you would probably wish he had received a stiff sentence in the first place so the rape wouldn't be occurring.

Liberals only like to be liberal when they get to be in a comfort zone. Once removed from it, things change.


Reminds me of an incident in the 90s when some liberal government official(don't remember his name) in Frisco refused to vote for some sort of divider to be built on this bridge for safety reasons. Like a month later, his teen daughter was killed in a car wreck on this exact bridge in the spot where that divider/buffer would have been built. He then wanted to bring it up for a vote. 14 A day late and a dollar short for his daughter unfortunately.

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