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Re: Recommend Me Some Sleaze Rocky Bands Please
Like to be fair to my local record store, if they spent their entire monthly cash flow stocking the shelves with the entire Faster Pussycat and L.A. Guns catalogues - I think they'd be out of business pretty fast. I'd guess not to many other people come in per day to request that stuff.
How did record stores not go out of business in prior decades stocking their shelves full of albums, no matter how popular or obscure?
Record stores were bitch slapped by the labels, and thats why even though some still exist, their selection is terrible. Its top 40 with a few greatest hits cds available, same as Wal Mart, but more expensive.
One solution to that is a paid download model.
Contrary to what anti downloaders say, it is proven that paid download services not only work, but are a huge success. Lossless the standard? No, not yet but its clearly inevitable. Itunes is a huge craze used by millions of people. While people like you, atari,etc. will say no one wants to pay for music, how do you explain the Slumdog Millionaire sountrack only having a thousand seeders on torrent sites yet sells 100x that much on Itunes?
Artists need to go one step further and like Reznor, offer their material on their website. Artists like M.I.A. let you buy their music on CD and LP, but they need to have it available for sale in all digital formats. Same with their videos. In an era where it is so easy to acquire music and video, artists need to have it available immediately on what is one of the first places people look.... an artist's official website.
I mean i do agree with some of what you say in general james. But I also think in a way you take it too far. With the idea that downloading is harmless to artists and business, that labels exclusively are only to blame for the state of things, and that there's no flow on effects.
I have never said downloading is harmless. Just because I take the music fan's side of the issue does not mean I don't see the initial problem. I recently downloaded Ciara's new album. I didn't buy it. It is currently on the verge of tanking on the charts, and she was pretty damn successful a couple years ago. Obviously my download is contributing to its descent down the charts. I'm not taking the blame for its collapse. On the drive home, I pass an area of the city that had three record stores on one street(Mchenry) for decades. Had they still existed, maybe I would have had an incentive to go in there and buy it on the way home. You think I'm gonna drive to Wal Mart which is a store partly responsible for the decline of this country in the one in a million chance they had it?
The labels shut out record stores, sold their soul to major outlets, never offered a real price reduction as technology allowed them to do so, offer as few choices as possible, list goes on and on.
It is definitely their fault.
The elevated price of live shows I think is due to artists having to make money somewhere. And I do question long term if we'll get more or less good music. If an artist can't afford to invest in themselves these days they're going to be fucked. Not that the old way was always good either.
Yeah that is part of the future, and the future is now. Ticket prices and merch will continue to go up, at least until the dust settles and we see exactly which model the industry will use.
I think they need to capitalize on the surprising resurgence of the LP format, dump the big box chains, limit production of CDs because music stores aren't coming back, and start offering high quality downloadable content(music, video, interviews,etc.) on various websites that will give people the incentive again to buy the music from artists they support.
If the labels want to survive, they have to embrace the downloading culture, not run from it.
I just think people have limited budgets for entertainment. When they get used to getting stuff free they arn't going to want to pay for it again. But it costs money to make music. And somewhere someone has to pick up the bill or it can't be made. While i think the old model was flawed...i'm yet to see a model that really works in alternative for brand new artists - people semi known can do their own thing and make it pay . But i'm keeping an open mind.
The current economy definitely plays a role in sales, but people WILL pay for music they like. While you are correct in saying the current generation has grown up on getting free downloads, the labels never offered them anything else. This is why it has to be embraced, because we are in the midst of a generation that doesn't give two shits about a compact disc being sold for $16.99.
Re: Recommend Me Some Sleaze Rocky Bands Please
The current economy definitely plays a role in sales, but people WILL pay for music they like. While you are correct in saying the current generation has grown up on getting free downloads, the labels never offered them anything else. This is why it has to be embraced, because we are in the midst of a generation that doesn't give two shits about a compact disc being sold for $16.99.
As a small part of the current generation I have to say your right James.
I have to say that most of my friends don't buy music, and haven't in the last few years. Although I'm as guilty as they are on that front, I will buy music if I like it. There's something about having the cd, that gives it a different listening experience to me...
Re: Recommend Me Some Sleaze Rocky Bands Please
Oooh, I just remembered...Hanoi Rocks.
The big-haired Axl from the WTTJ video, Izzy's fashion sense. It came straight from Hanoi, Andy McCoy and Michael Monroe.
Awesome music, odd at times, but they are Scandanavian, so you know, we forgive. 
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Re: Recommend Me Some Sleaze Rocky Bands Please
Thanks for all the tips guys. I'm loving the stuff i'm finding frm this thread!
Yeah neemo i'm a huge fan of Zakk...BLS gets a smidge heavy for me at times - I tend to like a few tracks rather than blast the whole albums....but they're definately kickass!
Re: Recommend Me Some Sleaze Rocky Bands Please
Re: Recommend Me Some Sleaze Rocky Bands Please
Just found these guys. They sound like what your looking for, they're alright.
