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Re: Michael Jackson Discussion
G&R folks, hey anything is possible. It can change within an hour from now or a day or two. Who know.
I do have some respect for M.J.
For me I thought he was an amasing talent when he was a kid with the J5.
I really didn't get into his solo career. Although I did admire the bass-line from Billy Jean. : )
I cannot believe that you actually think GN'R could pull something like this off.
Dude, seriously... walk away from the computer, go outside, walk around, take a couple month break from the GN'R songs, get laid, do something.
If you believe this means "anything can happen", your as stuck in your own world away from reality as Michael Jackson was at Neverland.
It's NEVER GONNA FRICKIN' HAPPEN. CD ain't coming back. It is dead, dead, dead.
And as for the death of any GN'R members, if Axl Rose were to die tomorrow, god forbid, other then spending 12 hours on the front page of Yahoo!, it would be a blip on the radar. None of their albums would even chart imo.
Re: Michael Jackson Discussion
wanna be startin something? ..:haha:.he he.... Actually, Gnr and Jackson were very close for catalog sales in 2008 (this chart doesn't include Chinese). Gnr is still a very popular brand that sells more yearly in the US than a number of legendary artists. Actually, the only reason Jackson had higher catalog sales was due to the reissue of Thriller. A reissued AFD would blow up on the catalog charts just as Thriller did.
http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/charts/y … op+Artists
And, I am quite certain, Gnr definitely had more catalog sales than Jackson in 2007. 
- tejastech08
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Re: Michael Jackson Discussion
Isn't the sales week Tuesday through Monday? Jackson died on Thursday, so his music was selling from Thursday afternoon through Monday at a ridiculous pace by modern standards. I say modern standards because the music industry has completely collapsed.
- Gunslinger
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Gunslinger wrote:I think Billboard has REALLY lost some of its relevance by overdoing it with these charts.
Michael sold MORE than the Black Eyed Peas, period...therefore it should be reflected as number 1 on the CURRENT chart because he has CURRENTLY outsold the Black Eyed Peas and enough to own the two and three spots as well. Just stupid in my opinion and not only lessens (in appearance) his remarkable accomplishment but gives a bit of false "gleam" to the Black Eyed Peas. They did NOT sell the most records therefore giving them the top spot is giving them a paper crown.
I agree. I guess this type of stuff was brought about because of albums like Dark Side of the Moon, Eagles Greatest Hits & Thriller.
I say, who cares when an album was released?! If it's good music and it's selling, let it chart!
Yeah, my deal is why not simply let the album chart in both categories?
USUALLY a catalog album isn't going to compete with current albums so the album will likely only be on one chart anyway. In the rare instances it does...so what?? The CURRENT weeks sales should depict which album will be #1 on the CURRENT chart.
It would make much more sense to see the three Michael Jackson albums that sold MORE than the Black Eyed peas be #1-#3 on the chart and the Black Eyed Peas be #4. Silly system they have came up with.
Isn't the sales week Tuesday through Monday? Jackson died on Thursday, so his music was selling from Thursday afternoon through Monday at a ridiculous pace by modern standards. I say modern standards because the music industry has completely collapsed.
You are correct and that makes what he did (he sold 415,000 albums in less than 5 days) all the more impressive.
Re: Michael Jackson Discussion
Itchy GTR wrote:Oh, ok. You made your point then?
Michael Jackson Breaks Billboard Charts Records
June 30, 2009 10:58 PM ET
Keith Caulfield, L.A.As predicted, Michael Jackson is once again the King of the Pop charts.
Based on preliminary sales numbers from Nielsen SoundScan, the entire top nine positions on Billboard's Top Pop Catalog Albums chart will house Jackson-related titles when the tally is released in the early morning on Wednesday (July 1). Nielsen SoundScan's sales tracking week ended at the close of business on Sunday (June 28) night.
Michael Jackson 1958-2009Jackson himself has a record eight out of the top 10, while a Jackson 5 compilation also finds its way into the upper tier.
The King of Pop's "Number Ones" will fittingly lead the pack at No. 1 with 108,000 (an increase of 2,340%) while "The Essential Michael Jackson" and "Thriller" are in the Nos. 2 and 3 slots with 102,000 and 101,000, respectively. Last week "Number Ones" was the only Jackson title on the chart, at No. 20 with 4,000 copies; both "Essential" and "Thriller" re-enter the tally this week.
Additionally, his classic 1979 studio set "Off the Wall" re-enters at No. 4 with 33,000 while his 1987 album "Bad" returns at No. 6 with 17,000. At No. 5, the Jackson 5's "The Ultimate Collection" debuts with 18,000. Jackson's fourth studio album for Epic Records, 1991's "Dangerous," re-enters at No. 7 with 14,000 while his 2001 compilation "Greatest Hits: HIStory -- Volume 1" also comes back to the list at No. 8 with 12,000. Finally, Jackson's 2004 box set "The Ultimate Collection" charts its first week on the Pop Catalog chart, arriving at No. 9 with 11,000.
The lone non-Jackson-related set in the top 10 is a reissue of the "Woodstock" movie soundtrack, which bows at No. 10 with 8,000.
Click Here!Collectively, Jackson's solo albums sold 415,000 this past week. That's extraordinary, since his titles sold a combined 10,000 in the week that ended June 21. Of the 415,000 total, 58% were digital downloads.
Additionally, the 415,000 albums sold just last week is nearly 40% more than what Jackson's catalog had sold the the entire year up through June 21 (297,000).
Speaking of digital albums, on the Top Digital Albums chart, Jackson has a record six out of the top 10 slots, including the entire top four. "The Essential Michael Jackson" leads the Top Digital Albums list with 80,000 downloads sold, while "Thriller" is No. 2 with 57,000.
With the Black Eyed Peas' "The E.N.D." moving back to the No. 1 slot on the Billboard 200 chart with 88,000, this week marks the first time that a catalog album has sold more than the No. 1 current set on the Billboard 200 albums chart. (All three of Jackson's top sellers on the Pop Catalog chart outsell "The E.N.D.")
Ironically, the feat almost occurred when Jackson re-issued "Thriller" in February 2008. The set relaunched with 166,000, re-entering at No. 1 on the Top Pop Catalog chart. That week, Jack Johnson's "Sleep Through the Static" led the Billboard 200 chart with 180,000 while Amy Winehouse's "Back to Black" was at No. 2 with 115,000.
Catalog albums are ineligible to appear on the Billboard 200 albums chart, though they can chart on the all-encompassing Top Comprehensive Albums list. On the latter chart, Jackson's "Number Ones," "Essential" and "Thriller" are at Nos. 1-3, followed by the Black Eyed Peas' "The E.N.D." at No. 4.
Jackson places a record 25 songs on the 75-position Hot Digital Songs chart (21 solo hits and four with his siblings), smashing the mark of 14 charting titles established by David Cook in the June 7, 2008 issue. Jackson's Halloween radio staple, "Thriller," moves 167,000, which is good for second place on the chart behind the 203,000 shifted by the Black Eyed Peas' "I Gotta Feeling."
"Thriller" was also Jackson's best seller in the week before his death with 5,000 downloads, which translates to a 3,551% jump. Jackson's total volume of downloads this week -- including his tracks with the Jackson 5 and the Jacksons -- account for 2.6 million downloads, a remarkable number considering last week's cumulative sum was 48,000. Moreover, Jackson becomes the first act to sell more than 1 million song downloads in a week.
Besides "Thriller," Jackson places five other songs in the top 10 including "Man In The Mirror" (No. 3, 165,000), "Billie Jean" (No. 4, 158,000), "The Way You Make Me Feel" (No. 6, 136,000), "Beat It" (No. 7, 134,000) and "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough" (No. 8, 125,000).
Not surprisingly, each of the tracks in the top 10 of Hot Digital Songs were among the top 10 most-played Jackson selections at radio following his passing. According to research provided by Nielsen BDS of monitored airplay from over 1,600 terrestrial and satellite radio stations and cable music channels, "Billie Jean" was the Jackson track with the most spins for the week ending June 28 with 4,540 -- 97% of which occurred after news of his death became public. The track posted only 318 plays in the prior week.
So because catalog titles are ineligible, he's not number 1 on the current chart. But on the chart including all albums sold, he's 1,2 & 3.
Question about that article, aren't The Jonas Brothers on top of the Billboard 200 this week? They say the Black Eyed Peas are #1 in the article yet if you check the charts it's the Jonas Brothers. How many units did those talentless hacks sell this week?
