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slashsfro
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Re: Actors/Directors you feel were robbed of Oscar wins/nominations

slashsfro wrote:

I think Cruise got shafted in The Last Samurai.  I was shocked how great that film was.

James
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Re: Actors/Directors you feel were robbed of Oscar wins/nominations

James wrote:
slashsfro wrote:

Chan Woo Park--Oldboy

I should shoot myself for not including him on my list. One of my all time favorites. If there's a director currently alive thats better than Park, someone point me in the right direction. He blows away anyone else simply with the story 'Cut' from Three Extremes. Don't even need to include his films. If you haven't watched it, check it out. The way he uses camera angles to make the piano actually become a character in the story is mesmerizing. Totally blew me away. His body of work should be analyzed in film classes worldwide.

Park is who I hoped Dimension would pick to direct the Halloween remake. Instead we got Rob Zombie. 14


Roman Polanski is blacklisted.

Repulsion is amazing. Way ahead of its time.


I have the opportunity to pick this up--I've heard it described as an intense psychological thriller.  It made 11th place on Bravos scariest movie moments.  Is this an accurate description of the film?

Its an amazing film, but the final act is way overhyped. Its definitely disturbing because the film isn't horror and is pretty much a drama with a few sledgehammers lobbed over your head at key moments, but you expect something unreal by all the hype it gets. I wish they had marketed this different.

Definitely watch it. Its one of my favorite foreign films.


Cate Blanchette

Like Helena Bonham Carter, this woman squandered most of her talent. She pigeonholed herself into mediocrity and only comes up for air once in a blue moon.

Axlin16
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Re: Actors/Directors you feel were robbed of Oscar wins/nominations

Axlin16 wrote:
James Lofton wrote:
Axl S wrote:

Clint Eastwood. The man has done so much, the films he's made as a director have all received critical acclaim and whilst he's had nominations he's never had a win and is very deserving.

Eastwood won the Oscar for best director in 92 with Unforgiven. If he didn't, he would have been at the top of my list because its the greatest western ever made. Should have won for best actor as well but everyone had a hard on for Pacino playing a blind dude.


Michael Mann (director) - Heat

Good choice. One of my favorite films, but  usually flies under my radar when compiling lists for some reason. It should have been in this movie tournament we're doing.


Michael J. Fox (actor) - Casualties of War

Just like with Cruise in July, that performance is criminally underrated and never got respect for it.

Since we're talking war movies, add Kubrick for Full Metal Jacket. Only thing that prevents that from being an absolute masterpiece is the fact they actually go to Vietnam. Film loses steam after boot camp ends. Almost redeems itself with the woman sniper.....almost.

Almost everyone involved in Heat deserved an award. Hell, you could even make a case for Portman and she's only onscreen for about five minutes.


Only reason Carpenter didn't win with The Thing is the academy really shunned horror during its boom years.

Casualties of War had a few problems. One, it didn't come out until 1989. By then, most movie going audiences were beyond burnt out on Vietnam War movies that criminalized soliders, despite their dramatic appeal as films. Films like Platoon, Full Metal Jacket, and others... Casualties of War was a day late and a dollar short.

The second issue was the film came at an akward time for Fox. Had it been done 1-2 years earlier, people would've been absolutely blown away by his performance. Seeing Alex P. Keaton, leading a major war epic, and with such dramatic acting ability, a guy known for his comedic appeal, would've just floored them. Although Fox did get some critical acclaim for the very very adult, "Bright Lights, Big City" with Kiefer Sutherland & Phoebe Cates, which really was a darker take on the 'yuppie' life, and Fox played the role great.

And the other problem for Casualties of War - Back To The Future Parts II & III. 1989 was just too busy for Fox for audiences to notice Casualties of War. 1989 saw the series finale for Family Ties, which was well documented, especially as a show that went out on top. And the production on not one, but two back to back, Back To The Future sequels had everyone in anticipation, with Part II being released later in the year.

People just weren't paying attention to Fox in Casualties of War, and it slipped under the radar.

slashfro wrote:

Major disagreement there.  I have no idea why he doesn't win.  The Oscars are fucked up.  Can someone explain how Forrest Gump or Shakespeare in Love won?  The fact that he's a conservative doesn't stop him from racking up nominations.  He isn't blacklisted --a guy like Roman Polanski is blacklisted.    He still gets top A list actors to appear in his films.  I think its more likely that the Oscars is just a fucked up awards ceremony.

Could you care to explain how outspoken conservatives like Patricia Heaton and Kelsey Grammer have multiple emmy wins?

Just because you get nominations, doesn't mean anything. Sometimes they do that, just to appease certain people. Just like they knew they had to appease people by giving Heath Ledger an Oscar for The Dark Knight, after his death. Had he lived, the film would've still been revered imo, but the Oscars would've shunned it completely, due to the Batman-factor.

Eastwood deserved his wins for Unforgiven imo. He also deserved, AT LEAST nominations for Gran Torino. Now I can see the other films not making it, because frankly some of his other films are okay, but he's still a fine actor.

The Oscars only nominates him, and gives him the win, when they absolutely have to. Plus, understand, the hyper-liberalism of Hollywood now, was not as prevolent in 1992/93.

As for Patricia Heaton & Kelsey Grammer... another situation in which they were forced by fans & critics alike. Everybody Loves Raymond was an immensely popular show, and a critical darling during it's run, with every actor in the main cast winning an Emmy at one time or another. Same with Frasier. To ignore that show, would've been someone's ass. They were forced.

And not meaning any offense to anyone, but the only reason Mel Gibson didn't win for Passion is because a bunch of jews are the major power players in Hollywood. Damn fine film, even if it did make the Romans a bit too sympathetic in characterization.

slashsfro wrote:

I think Cruise got shafted in The Last Samurai.  I was shocked how great that film was.

I agree. Cruise did a good job, but not one of a nom imo. At least not like with July & Collateral. The person who directed Last Samurai should've gotten a nom. It's a stunning film to watch, and well directed.

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