You are not logged in. Please register or login.
- Topics: Active | Unanswered
Re: ABC News = Government Agency
Their desire to use health care to choke us all with a Soviet style beauracracy is what's gonna possibly kill it. People are bound to start waking up.
Add the 50 million uninsured to medicaid. Problem solved. Cost lots of money, but not trillions and it nixes the potential for irrelevant bean counters.
He wont go for it though.
- Gunslinger
- Rep: 88
Re: ABC News = Government Agency
ABC is refusing to air paid ads during its White House health care presentation, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned, including a paid-for alternative viewpoint!
If THIS doesnt concern you guys then I don't know what to say.
PaSnow Obama's approval ratings aren't going down due to this it is because people are getting over the "love buzz" and slowly seeing the facts. Fact is Wall Street sees problems and worry once again due to the "fake money" solution of fixing the economy and housing markets. People are not happy at the increased taxes he has imposed at a time when the ecoomy is suffering. Add the ridiculous amount he wants to spend on health care at one of the worst possible times and approval ratings WILL go down. He's not the messiah, he's just an inexperienced guy with perhaps good intentions but bad judgement. He got in due to the thrill of change and putting our first black president in. While these things within themselves are positives they do not warrant a decision to put a guy like this into the MOST POWERFUL POSITION IN THE WORLD.
I don't wish him failure by any means, anyone who would is insane (Rush Limbaugh is a moron due to his linear views). What I do hope is he will listen to the voices of reason DESPITE what party they come from and stop some of these irrreversible insane ideas. Irreversible in terms of being near impossible to take a hit like this at a time when our country is hurting.
Funny thing James said, it is so ridiculously obvious and simple it's damned near brilliant. Medicaid could at least be monitored and help those who really indeed need it, sure there's going to be flaws and cracks in the system but it would be better than this very IMMODEST PROPOSAL! Perhaps we should just take the J. Swift approach and eat the working class, that would free up plenty of funds for healthcare for everyone else.
We are a STEP away from total government censorship! This little ABC/Obama pairing is even the more scarier when you read about what he would like to do in terms of what media outlets should or should not be able to say about the government.
People are bound to start waking up.
I only wish this were true. The problem is many (not you PaSnow nor most of the people who can express their opposing views in an intelligent manner) people are sheep. They are led by popular opinion and/or the media. People only wake up in general once it is too late.
I hope I'm wrong James.
I guess we could try to make what's happening apparent to others right up until the point of it being irreversible but the result of our efforts would be the same.
I've posted quite a few times in this thread so I think in the interest of good judgement and respect to the other members it's time for me to say I've said enough. Telling a view is fine, shoving it down other's throats only alienates.
In the end people will believe what ever makes them comfortable. 
- Communist China
- Rep: 130
Re: ABC News = Government Agency
Slinger, like PaSnow said earlier, isn't the entire ABC presentation commercial free? Regardless of what you're trying to sell, ABC isn't going to buy anything for that time slot.
- Gunslinger
- Rep: 88
Re: ABC News = Government Agency
Slinger, like PaSnow said earlier, isn't the entire ABC presentation commercial free? Regardless of what you're trying to sell, ABC isn't going to buy anything for that time slot.
This may be true CC I really don't know one way or the other on this one point. If it isn't true it's even more disturbing.
My point is there should NEVER have been a situation where a broadcasting company would do this type of presentation without an opposing view in the first place. FAR TOO MUCH is at stake with OUR money at a time that we simply do not have the means.
While I am totally against the idea I could "stomach" it respectfully (just as I did when I felt we put a poor choice in as president) if both sides were heard equally. There shouldn't be any special favors coming from the private sector. The American Public should hear both sides in full then make their collective decision. At that point the will of the majority should be carried out. It isn't always going to be the best decision but it would at least be a fair one. Right now Obama is playing "dirty pool".
Re: ABC News = Government Agency
All I know is if Bush would've done this, they would've been calling it Nazi Germany.
You're forgetting the mentality of the Obama sheep:
Bush does something= bad.
Obama does same thing as Bush= greatest thing since sliced bread.
These people were protesting Bush's approval of the Patriot Act, even labeling him Hitler. Obama approves it, they love it and will spit on the constitution as long as he says its ok.
The idiocy of our culture is comical.
- Communist China
- Rep: 130
Re: ABC News = Government Agency
Bush did do the same thing basically, he gave Fox tons of access to the White House and used them as a government mouthpiece. And nobody cared about it then, just like nobody cares about this now.
Re: ABC News = Government Agency
Bush did do the same thing basically, he gave Fox tons of access to the White House and used them as a government mouthpiece. And nobody cared about it then, just like nobody cares about this now.
Liberals bitched and moaned daily. Weekly. Yearly. Now its a big bowl of peaches and cream.
Its not the same thing anyways. Bush was never in cahoots with Fox shoving exclusive biased programming down the publics throat. Now if Bush had a Fox News special on the War in Iraq and all dissenting opinion vaporized, other news outlets not allowed access, you would have a point regarding that.
Fox News had access to the White House. So did CNN. So did MSNBC. List goes on.
Its mind boggling that people actually think the opposing viewpoint shouldn't be heard. That would be like Bush having the networks not allow the democrats a rebuttal to his State of the Union speeches. I have a feeling the people loving this wouldn't have loved that.
Re: ABC News = Government Agency
James is right. Bush's door was open to all those media outlets, it's just Fox were the only ones that cared. Obviously Bush wasn't going to grant interviews to douche bags like Keith Olberfuhrer and Chris Matthews, but NBC, ABC & CBS were invited. That's why when Brian Williams took the NBC Nightly News (or whatever it's called) into the White House, and NBC kept talking about, no time EVER has a President allowed access to the media... umm bullshit. Bush's door was always open, and even guys like Bob Woodward I believe, said that Bush was very free with information, and sharing it with the media. But the media didn't want you to know that.
I like Obama, but I wouldn't give you two bloody cents for his supporters. The "Yes we can, yes we can, yes we can" douche bags, that think he's the second coming of Christ.
The biggest reason i've enjoyed Obama's presidency thus far, is he's done everything I expected him to do. Stay the course. He's running the country so far with a pragmatic attitude, bipartisan, keeping on with Bush's policies, and as a man who supported and voted for George W. Bush... I knew this would happen. So so far, no complaints, although he needed to take a far stronger public stance on that China issue with the reporters.
Bush was the scapegoat of both the Republican & Democratic parties, and it's kind of sad. The Republicans marketed him as an image of the GOP, which led to his downfall as the Republicans are slowly becoming the new Federalists, and the Democrats USED Bush's image, skewed it, to get back into the White House, when the real problems with the GOP and the government, lied as a collective whole of alot of really no idea lightweights, all having virtually nothing to do with Bush.
Now, the media can't climb out of Obama's ass for six seconds to look at the world objectively. They're still drunk off the Obama love juice.
And I don't blame Obama one minute for it. It's not his fault he's got a bunch of new age hippie, baby boomers in the media that think he's Jesus. No different than it wasn't Bush's fault, that the Reaganites piggie backed his presidency.
- Randall Flagg
- Rep: 139
Re: ABC News = Government Agency
The point of journalism is to provide a check on government. It's meant to get information out to the masses and prevent closed door secrecy. An informed public is crucial for a democracy to remain. This is why the Media is often called the 4th branch of government. When journalists reveal something that puts lives in danger (see Abu Grahib photos) they do so under the rationalization they are keeping us informed.
ABC isn't keeping us informed. They're serving as a medium for Obama to sell his socialist agenda that will without a doubt, change the entire economic system of the US. He's already buying America's greatest industry and is now regulating American's greatest and oldest cash crop. If ABC was interested in keeping us informed, they'd allocate equal time to a well spoken and respected opponent of this plan (not Glenn Beck or Sean Hannity). They aren't doing this which is what is troubling. One of the other networks (hopefully FOX will do it) needs to have its own 1 hour special with someone able to pull in the same ratings.
This is how it starts. Obamabots orgams as their hero takes stage and allow any sign of intelligence to abandon ship. I don't give two fucks what your education level or excuse is; if you're defending this, you're a fucking idiot and a danger to democracy. This air time will be the "look too" excuse used by partisans when it happens again and again until it becomes standard policy. Soon we'll have weekly shows of Obama on mainstream TV pushing his agenda with no disent allowed. This shit is what gave birth to talk radio, Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. How quickly they forget. If it wasn't for the PC/censorship bullshit of the 80s, FOX wouldn't exist. As they say, Ka is a wheel.
