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Neemo
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Re: Slash to be on American Idol next week

Neemo wrote:

oh damn remember Slash recording Kashmir with those chicks? check this article out from March

Slash to cover Led Zep with Simon Cowell quartet
Mogul made it happen at Elton John's party

Ben Rogerson, Tue 17 Mar 2009, 11:16 am GMT

Escala: about to get aquainted with a man in a top hat.

What happens when heavy rock meets 'contemporary classical' by way of pop's most successful impresario? We're not sure, but it seems that we're about to find out.

It's being reported that Slash is set to duet with Escala, the 'electric string quartet' who made a name for themselves on Simon Cowell's Britain's Got Talent TV show last year.

The Sun reports that the unlikely match-up will see Escala and Slash heading into an LA studio to record a cover of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir for the pop/classical group's debut album.

This is being reported as news on Escala's official website, so we can only assume that it's true.

"Simon thinks Slash is incredible"
Almost inevitably, it was Cowell who set up this up – at Elton John's Oscar party. The Sun quotes an 'insider' as saying: "Simon thinks Slash is incredible and they got on like a house on fire at Elt's party.

"He was looking for someone unexpected to work with the girls and asked if he'd be interested. [Slash] really liked the idea and jumped at the chance."

Other songs on the Escala album will include covers of Snow Patrol's Run (a perennial Cowell favourite), Robert Miles' Children and Wings' Live And Let Die. It'll be available on 25 May.

i guess we know where all this American Idol thing came from then smile

Smoking Guns
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Re: Slash to be on American Idol next week

Smoking Guns wrote:
Neemo wrote:

oh damn remember Slash recording Kashmir with those chicks? check this article out from March

Slash to cover Led Zep with Simon Cowell quartet
Mogul made it happen at Elton John's party

Ben Rogerson, Tue 17 Mar 2009, 11:16 am GMT

Escala: about to get aquainted with a man in a top hat.

What happens when heavy rock meets 'contemporary classical' by way of pop's most successful impresario? We're not sure, but it seems that we're about to find out.

It's being reported that Slash is set to duet with Escala, the 'electric string quartet' who made a name for themselves on Simon Cowell's Britain's Got Talent TV show last year.

The Sun reports that the unlikely match-up will see Escala and Slash heading into an LA studio to record a cover of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir for the pop/classical group's debut album.

This is being reported as news on Escala's official website, so we can only assume that it's true.

"Simon thinks Slash is incredible"
Almost inevitably, it was Cowell who set up this up – at Elton John's Oscar party. The Sun quotes an 'insider' as saying: "Simon thinks Slash is incredible and they got on like a house on fire at Elt's party.

"He was looking for someone unexpected to work with the girls and asked if he'd be interested. [Slash] really liked the idea and jumped at the chance."

Other songs on the Escala album will include covers of Snow Patrol's Run (a perennial Cowell favourite), Robert Miles' Children and Wings' Live And Let Die. It'll be available on 25 May.

i guess we know where all this American Idol thing came from then smile

Neemo, didn't I break the code on this on the one of the previous pages already?  Ha.

Neemo
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Re: Slash to be on American Idol next week

Neemo wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:
Axlin08 wrote:

Because American Idol is bigger than Slash by lightyears.

Simon loves Slash and asked him to come on.  So he is.  Simon also asked Slash if he wanted to record that led zep cover with the all chic band.

so you did...oops my bad smile

-D-
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Re: Slash to be on American Idol next week

-D- wrote:
Axlin08 wrote:
faldor wrote:
Communist China wrote:

Difference is the stars from AI have a discernable talent. When someone from the Real World wins an Oscar or sells over 10 million records worldwide, then you'll have a point.

Let's see someone from American Idol win a tag team championship belt in the WWE. 

Seriously though, record sales don't automatically equal talent.  Carrie Underwood is cute and a big country star.  The country fans embrace anything, wasn't Jessica Simpson accepted after her failed pop career?  Kelly Clarkson was successful until she tried to do things "her way", then she went back to Clive Davis when that failed.  Jennifer Hudson I'll give you, but she didn't even win her season probably because she wasn't hot enough.  Didn't have the "look" of an idol.  Had to be, she obviously had the talent.  The show is one big popularity contest and for the most part is a joke.

That's how I feel, and I'm sticking to it.

Carrie Underwood, as far as music goes, is really the only success story to come out of AI. Clarkson had a fleeting moment of success, but like you mentioned she faded off when she started trying to do it her way. Hudson's only claim to fame is an Oscar, which really means absolutely nothing. I hear people point that out all the time, and just think of this fact... how many Oscar winners, win, and you never ever hear from them ever again? That is Jen Hudson. The rest never were ever significant.

Country fans embrace anything however, that statement, is MASSIVELY untrue. If ANY genre in the business, is more assholeish, exclusive, and full of themselves thinking they are gods of music... it's country... and it's usually the shittiest too. Jessica Simpson's country jaunt was a MASSIVE flop, and even Sony Nashville as told Sony HQ they don't want her back on their label, her album was a bomb that bad in the country world.

So her country days, and most likely career, is done.

Idol is a 'one season wonder' show, with only one success story. I'm actually shocked people even still cover and follow Kelly Clarkson, but even with that, it's not to the extent of a Carrie Underwood.

An Oscar means nothing? Dude have u lost your mind? please tell me u are being sarcastic.

Axlin16
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Axlin16 wrote:

I'm saying that MOST Oscar winners, are flashes in the pan. Think about it.

Every year there's the Oscars right? How many repeat winners are there? How many of them go on to long term success?

I think multiple nominations over the span of a career, versus one win, is far more of an accomplishment. Winning ONE Oscar means you were popular in ONE film, at ONE time, in ONE year.

At least a Kelly Clarkson has been making BO for the last SEVERAL years. I just kind of scratch my head, when I hear how Jennifer Hudson is a success story because of one Oscar, versus Kelly Clarkson who's had years of success, and Carrie Underwood who's had years of MEGA success.

faldor
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faldor wrote:

An Oscar doesn't mean that much in terms of American Idol.  She won the award for acting right?  She didn't learn how to act on American Idol.  Obviously without the show she wouldn't have been given the chance so in a way it had everything to do with her winning the award.  But the point of American Idol isn't to find the next Oscar winner.

Quick someone come up with a show for that.  American Actor/Actress.

Axlin16
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Axlin16 wrote:

Nobody is questioning her acting ability. But to throw an Oscar into the argument, just doesn't mean much to me.

Having a 7x platinum debut album does. It also equals a SHIT LOAD more money too.

That's success. Jennifer Hudson can use that Oscar as a paper weight, when she gets that secretary job at Clive Davis' office.

faldor
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Re: Slash to be on American Idol next week

faldor wrote:

Oh I'm on your side here.  To say she's the biggest success from American Idol because she won an Oscar is missing the point.  Kelly Clarkson and many others from the show have been much more successful in the MUSIC world than Jennifer Hudson has, and that's what the show is for isn't it?

-D-
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Re: Slash to be on American Idol next week

-D- wrote:

yeah but dude u are too much of a "what have u done for me lately" person

I don't care if Slash never writes another song or does hip hop. he will always be an ICON thanks to his work in GNR

If u win an Oscar, that is the pinnacle, so where u are sitting there talking about it means nothing cause most people don't win another, hell, how many people dont win one period?

so the fact she won ONE is still huge regardless if she ever acts again.

Thats the equivolent of saying a Stanley Cup or a Superbowl means nothing.

Does Peyton Manning suck if he never wins another one?

slashsfro
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Re: Slash to be on American Idol next week

slashsfro wrote:

I'm saying that MOST Oscar winners, are flashes in the pan. Think about it.

Every year there's the Oscars right? How many repeat winners are there? How many of them go on to long term success?

I think multiple nominations over the span of a career, versus one win, is far more of an accomplishment. Winning ONE Oscar means you were popular in ONE film, at ONE time, in ONE year.

I was in total agreement with this point until I actually went to the oscars site and looked up the past winners.  Not all of them have been failures with their post oscar projects.  I think the bar is different if they won for an art film than a mainstream film though.  You really cant expect an actor who does primarily character work to suddenly start acting in mainstream films now can you?

Okay here's a list of winners for both men and women's best supporting actor from 1994-2007 (2008 excluded for obvious reasons)

Best Supporting Actress

1994--Dianne Wiest--Bullets over Broadway
1995--Mira Sorvino--Might Afrodite (two straight years for Woody Allen films)
1996--Juliet Binoche--The English Patient
1997--Kim Bassinger--LA Confidential
1998-Judi Dench--Shakespeare in Love
1999-Angelina Jolie--Girl Interrupted
2000-Marcia Gay Harden--Pollack
2001--Jennifer Connelly--A Beautiful Mind
2002-Catherine Zeta Jones--Chicago
2003-Renee Zellweger-Cold Mountain
2004-Cate Blanchette-The Aviator
2005-Rachel Weisz--The Constant Gardner
2006Jennifer Hudson--Dreamgirls
2007 Tilda Swinton--Michael Clayton

I'm gonna save the male supporting actor winners for another post since this one is getting long.  Here are the clearly successful post oscar win actresses: Judi Dench (Bond films, and another 4 nominations since her win), Angelina Jolie (no explanation needed), Cate Blanchette, Tilda Swinton (impressive post oscar resume--Narnia film, Burn After Reading, BB). 

Here are the actress's whose careers have kinda nosedived after the win:Kim Bassinger, Mira Sorvino, Rachel Weisz (suprisingly, her post oscar resume hasn't been good), Renee Zelliweger, and Jennifer Hudson.

The rest are arguable on whether or not they failed after their oscar win.  Does anyone expect Juliette Binoche, a French actress, to star in a lot of mainstream US flicks? Or Marcia Gay Harden and Dianne Wiest?  Some of this stuff is skewed because they won for "art" films and I don't really expect these women to start suddenly acting in mainstream films.

I think the main point is that a majority of these actresses enjoy long term success although your interpretation of the word may change your perspective.

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