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mickronson
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Re: The death of BitTorrent?

mickronson wrote:

aint used torrents in years, so wont affect me.  usenet all the way

strat0
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Re: The death of BitTorrent?

strat0 wrote:
slashsfro wrote:

To be perfectly honest, I've been using torrent sites with private trackers so I'm not as affected as much.  Like Axlin08 mentioned just google searching for megaupload or rapidshare (or others) links can be just as effective.  There's also zero chance of getting bad hash fails when downloading from links.

For those who download from isohunt I have a question:  Weren't US users blacklisted from isohunt trackers?

They were for about a month like a year ago 16
I'm in the US and I still use them.
If you haven't noticed those USA downloading stories about the RIAA bustin down your door and taking your PC is pretty much a fable. That shot doesn't happen nearly as much as the RIAA claims.

James
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Re: The death of BitTorrent?

James wrote:

STOCKHOLM – Four men linked to popular file-sharing site The Pirate Bay were convicted Friday of breaking Sweden's copyright law by helping millions of users freely download music, movies and computer games on the Internet.

The Stockholm district court sentenced Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, Peter Sunde, Fredrik Neij and Carl Lundstrom to one year each in prison.

They were also ordered to pay damages of 30 million kronor ($3.6 million) to a series of entertainment companies, including Warner Bros, Sony Music Entertainment, EMI and Columbia Pictures.

The Pirate Bay provides a forum for its estimated 22 million users to download content through so-called torrent files. The site has become the entertainment industry's enemy No. 1 after successful court actions against file-swapping sites such as Grokster and Kazaa.

Defense lawyers had argued the quartet should be acquitted because The Pirate Bay doesn't host any copyright-protected material. Instead, it provides a forum for its users to download content through so-called torrent files. The technology allows users to transfer parts of a large file from several different users, increasing download speeds.

The court found the defendants guilty of helping users commit copyright violations "by providing a Web site with ... sophisticated search functions, simple download and storage capabilities, and through the tracker linked to the Web site."

Re: The death of BitTorrent?

AtariLegend wrote:

It's a bit late for this, ain't it?

Re: The death of BitTorrent?

I'm glad that I'm not them, that's for sure.

Jesus Christ.

One year in jail and trettio jävla miljoner kronor på det.

Re: The death of BitTorrent?

AtariLegend wrote:

A court in Sweden has jailed four men behind The Pirate Bay (TPB), the world's most high-profile file-sharing website, in a landmark case.

Frederik Neij, Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, Carl Lundstrom and Peter Sunde were found guilty of breaking copyright law and were sentenced to a year in jail.

They were also ordered to pay $4.5m (£3m) in damages.

Record companies welcomed the verdict but the men are to appeal and Sunde said they would refuse to pay the fine.

Speaking at an online press conference, he described the verdict as "bizarre".

"It's serious to actually be found guilty and get jail time. It's really serious. And that's a bit weird," Sunde said.

"It's so bizarre that we were convicted at all and it's even more bizarre that we were [convicted] as a team. The court said we were organised. I can't get Gottfrid out of bed in the morning. If you're going to convict us, convict us of disorganised crime.

"We can't pay and we wouldn't pay. Even if I had the money I would rather burn everything I owned, and I wouldn't even give them the ashes."

The damages were awarded to a number of entertainment companies, including Warner Bros, Sony Music Entertainment, EMI, and Columbia Pictures.

However, the total awarded fell short of the $17.5m in damages and interest the firms were seeking.

Speaking to the BBC, the chairman of industry body the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) John Kennedy said the verdict sent out a clear message.

"These guys weren't making a principled stand, they were out to line their own pockets. There was nothing meritorious about their behaviour, it was reprehensible.

"The Pirate Bay did immense harm and the damages awarded doesn't even get close to compensation, but we never claimed it did.

"There has been a perception that piracy is OK and that the music industry should just have to accept it. This verdict will change that," he said.

The four men denied the charges throughout the trial, saying that because they did not actually host any files, they were not doing anything wrong.

Speaking on Swedish Radio, assistant judge Klarius explained how the court reached its findings.

"The court first tried whether there was any question of breach of copyright by the file-sharing application and that has been proved, that the offence was committed.

"The court then moved on to look at those who acted as a team to operate the Pirate Bay file-sharing service, and the court found that they knew that material which was protected by copyright but continued to operate the service," he said.

A lawyer for Carl Lundstrom, Per Samuelson, told journalists he was shocked by the guilty verdict and the severity of the sentence.

"That's outrageous, in my point of view. Of course we will appeal," he was quoted as saying by Reuters news agency. "This is the first word, not the last. The last word will be ours."

Political issue

Rickard Falkvinge, leader of The Pirate Party - which is trying to reform laws around copyright and patents in the digital age - told the BBC that the verdict was "a gross injustice".

"This wasn't a criminal trial, it was a political trial. It is just gross beyond description that you can jail four people for providing infrastructure.

"There is a lot of anger in Sweden right now. File-sharing is an institution here and while I can't encourage people to break copyright law, I'm not following it and I don't agree with it.

"Today's events make file-sharing a hot political issue and we're going to take this to the European Parliament."

The Pirate Bay is the world's most high profile file-sharing website and was set up in 2003 by anti-copyright organisation Piratbyran, but for the last five years it has been run by individuals.

Millions of files are exchanged using the service every day.

No copyright content is hosted on The Pirate Bay's web servers; instead the site hosts "torrent" links to TV, film and music files held on its users' computers. 

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8003799.stm


Pirate Bay's Peter Sunde, speaking on his website: 'We cannot and wouldn't pay'

PaSnow
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Re: The death of BitTorrent?

PaSnow wrote:

I don't care much about these sites livelyhood anymore after Napster got shut down. He was the originator, all these others are just copycats riding the downloading chow-wagon.

mickronson
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Re: The death of BitTorrent?

mickronson wrote:

lol meh,  ill still be usin my superfast super-anonymous usenet.

monkeychow
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Re: The death of BitTorrent?

monkeychow wrote:

They used to post comments insulting people who threatened them with legal action...guess they pissed someone off.

PGER83
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Re: The death of BitTorrent?

PGER83 wrote:

How is usenet more anonymous than other sites??

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