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Re: The 9 most unnecessary Greatest Hits albums of all time
Its a 2 cd set, and this band only had one true hit(Lovefool).
You should add My Favorite Game and Burning Down the House to that list.
And GN'R should be on that list because the tracklist is absolute shit.
I'm glad that they tried to stop it. I'm not happy that they lost.
Re: The 9 most unnecessary Greatest Hits albums of all time
U218 Singles Was a joke. The band had just released The Best of 1980-1990 and The Best of 1990-2000. It was a pointless release. The only good part about it was it came with a delux edition with a live from Milan dvd.
Re: The 9 most unnecessary Greatest Hits albums of all time
As for the above listing, not only did Ice sample the Stones "Satisfaction" without permission, he also sampled Queen's "Under Pressure" on "Ice, Ice Baby" without permission.
May threw a fit when he heard it, and in alot of ways in was really the beginning of 'enforcing' music licensing rights in modern times.
EDIT: I now see where they mentioned this in the article.
Re: The 9 most unnecessary Greatest Hits albums of all time
Guns N' Roses
Yes i'm serious, at least in 2004. Maybe now they could incorporate some tracks from CD in order that no album has too much representation. But in 2004, with only THREE original studio albums, and EP and a cover album, I don't think that discography warrants a Greatest Hits release. Obviously fans could simply just make their own custom mix CD's.
I honestly imagine the tracks included on their GH would be the same. CD didn't spawn anything that I would call one of GNR's greatest hits.
Maybe after the new incarnation of GNR puts out some more material, then they can do another Greatest Hits that would encompass the two different versions of the band. (I'm saying the old GNR and new GNR, regardless of who's actually in the band now, it seems clear that the lineup will change often)
Re: The 9 most unnecessary Greatest Hits albums of all time
Well what would happen is it would become a compliation like "The Best of Guns N' Roses", and not a GH. I personally think, like Metallica, that GN'R cannot be truely encompassed with just one disc, without being Appetite-heavy, like Metallica would be Black album-heavy.
To be completely honest, unless you're dealing with an Elvis, there's not many artists who are going to put out 'Greatest Hits' that really reflect their Greatest Hits and nothing else. Most artist look at it as just a name, to put together an album that has their absolute best and most popular work from their catalog, and usually an album that'll appeal to both casual & hardcore fans. I think by making the album heavy on alot of the popular songs from the old era, appeals to casuals, and including some CD tracks will appeal to hardcores, many of which were pleased with the album, are enjoying it, and hold it up to the light with AFD & UYI.
I think, now in 2009, it would be a two-disc and something like this...
Disc 1: The Jungle
1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Mr. Brownstone
4. Live and Let Die
5. Patience
6. Used To Love Her
7. You're Crazy [acoustic]
8. Sweet Child O' Mine
9. Rocket Queen
10. You Could Be Mine
11. Coma
12. Nightrain
13. Knockin' On Heaven's Door [live]
14. Paradise City
Disc 2: The Garden
1. Civil War
2. Yesterdays
3. Don't Cry [original]
4. November Rain
5. The Garden
6. Estranged
7. Sympathy For The Devil
8. There Was A Time
9. Sorry
10. Madagascar
11. This I Love
12. Prostitute
AFD = 7
Lies = 3
UYI1 = 5
UYI2 = 4
Live Era = 1
UYI (material total) = 10
GH = 1
CD = 5
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26 songs
The reason I think it's more possible now to put this together now, versus in 2004, is because in 2004 it would've been too encompassing of just AFD & UYI. You'd of had Disc 1 basically being Appetite, and Disc 2 being best of UYI. When instead you could just buy those albums. Now with CD being out, putting those 5 tracks on Disc 2, you're really acknowleding more of the ballad/ballad-esque material, and really all of the tracks I listed could've easily found themselves on the UYI albums. They're basically UYI III songs. Despite the associate changes, those songs ironically blend very well with songs like NR, Estranged, Garden, etc.
It also allows Disc 1 to be AFD-heavy, without AFD drowing out the other good material. You also cover more of their best material, without relying on singles. It also allows three of their most popular covers, without the albums being drowned on cover material, like GH was, having Sympathy, LALD, KOHD, along with two Spaghetti tracks, which was just MASSIVE overkill on covers. A one disc shouldn't have more than two, and any collection imo shouldn't have more than 3. Anymore than that makes them come across as a cover band.
You also aren't taking away the other albums, and encourging people to buy those records. You're still missing out on things like My Michelle, Think About You, Move To The City, Mama Kin, One In A Million, Dust N' Bones, Perfect Crime, Bad Obsession, Dead Horse, 14 Years, Breakdown, Pretty Tied Up, Locomotive, So Fine, CD, Better, If The World, Catcher In The Rye, IRS...
You are also avoiding TSI, which should be. Despite it's decent sales, it's been overwhemingly hated pretty much since it was released. At least CD does have a fanbase, and the material is original. I also think by including TWAT, This I Love & Prostitute you're staying in touch with the UYI-era GN'R, and including Sympathy, Sorry & Madagascar is reflective of what the band became under Axl's control.
I think what becomes the problem with CD is a few things. For any collection to include new era songs, would infuriate alot of the old Gunners, and probably delight current hardcores. This is the issue with having factions scattered throughout the fanbase. Another issue becomes is of ANY of GNR's albums, CD is the most mixed opinions of them all from even the diehard CD fans. Every fan of that album, seems to have a different opinion as to what the best songs are. I put Madagascar & Prostitute on there, and when we were doing elimination they were among the first to go.
But at the same time, I think to acknowledge the more modern-Guns sound, like CD & Better (the singles), would throw the 2nd disc completely off. The sound is too industrial to fit & flow with the old Guns songs. That's why I included mostly just the reflective ballads.
Re: The 9 most unnecessary Greatest Hits albums of all time
I feel that in the future Chinese Democracy (the song) should be included on a compilation album, and like you said, putting that anywhere on there would throw everything off.
So I think they should just wait until the current band releases more material and separate the disks a lot like Metallica should.
Re: The 9 most unnecessary Greatest Hits albums of all time
I would NEVER buy a GNR best of/GH that tries to combine both eras. Its insulting to the classic line up. While I certainly would have pre-CD release just to hear some new songs, I wouldn't now. There has to be a separation of the eras. Casual fans already consider everything a mess, and there's no point in adding to the confusion. Also, the new lineup never cemented an actual reputation deserving of a compilation of this magnitude. It would be like VH adding five Cherone tunes to a Best of collection. That dog wont hunt.
Let this band take its own path.
Remove...
There Was A Time
Sorry
Madagascar
This I Love
Prostitute
and add....
Move to the City
Out Ta Get Me
Dust N Bones
Pretty Tied Up
Attitude
Now its ready to be wrapped in cellophane.
Re: The 9 most unnecessary Greatest Hits albums of all time
And just based on what both Saikin & James have said, imo, is a big reason there hasn't been an officially Axl-sanctioned compliation, other than Live Era.
But with that being said, how can new Guns take it's own path, when any live show since 2001, now, or in the future, features 16/20 songs typically from the old era? That dog won't hunt either.
New Guns = 80's KISS. Even though new KISS continued success through their own merits and reinvention, they STILL during their live shows played majority old songs, the hits, and even when they released their own compliation set at the end of the decade, it featured mostly songs from the old era.
And if GN'R were to go the route, like KISS, or re-recording the old tunes by the new band, and releasing it on a compliation set, they'd piss off even more people.
Probably the best they'll ever do is releasing studio-refined live albums, that feature both CD songs as well as old era, performed by whatever this week's GN'R band is.
Hopefully if GN'R ever get reguarly touring again, they'll do something with or like Live Nation for the internet, where live shows are available for download like for $10 bucks audio or video ($20), a few hours after each show ends.
