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Re: Slash Basically Blaming Axl
There is no technical problem with the way CD sounds. You may not like it, but that doesn't make it a "problem." I don't hear the drum machine comparison, so I don't even know what you mean.
And maybe, just maybe, Axl fired Matt just because he didn't like the asshole. I know I don't.
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Re: Slash Basically Blaming Axl
I'm still trying to figure out why I'm in denial and why I'm deluded because I think Use Your Illusion II and Chinese Democracy are better than Appetite For Destruction.
If you can't accept that other people have different opinions than your own you shouldn't really be coming to a message board.
And especially not to one dedicated to a band like Guns N' Roses.
What part of an album, and the quality of it's songs being different do you not fucking get?
When I say the production of Chinese Democracy is not better than any other GnR album, I am talking about the technical aspects that are involved in the recording process. If you can say that it's your opinion that Axl purposely went out and hired Brian Mantia for thousands of dollars (or whatever he pays him), so that he could purposely make him sound like a 400 dollar drum machine from Guitar Center on most of the album, with some sort of logical explanation backing it up, excluding the idea that Axl just likes to spend money, I'll concede. This isn't an issue of taste, I'm not debating that, it's an issue of common sense, of what is artistic vs. what is a fuck up. Appetite is one of the most perfectly recorded albums ever, and the recording of CD doesn't do the songs justice.
And as far as your suggestion... Whatever. I'm posting in the old GnR section and VR section, and having arguments over Chinese Democracy, which I didn't start.
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Re: Slash Basically Blaming Axl
There is no technical problem with the way CD sounds. You may not like it, but that doesn't make it a "problem." I don't hear the drum machine comparison, so I don't even know what you mean.
And maybe, just maybe, Axl fired Matt just because he didn't like the asshole. I know I don't.
"TWAT" sounds like a machine, "Prostitute" sounds like a machine, "Better" sounds like a machine, "If The World" sounds like a machine, "Madagascar" sounds like a machine, many of the songs drum beats sound a like.
my only problem with how it sounds is the density of all the sounds on it....sometimes its hard to follow one particular instrument
I get that especially with "Catcher In The Rye".
Re: Slash Basically Blaming Axl
That's because the songs you mention do have a drum machine mixed with real drums in them...
It's a MPC2000.
Re: Slash Basically Blaming Axl
To Loaded...
What you're saying is not entirely wrong, but you still haven't explained in detail, why someone who likes CD is deluded.
I think CD is a great album, another fantastic album from Guns N' Roses, because I look at it as for it to be the LEGENDARY CLUSTERFUCK that it is, and still come out THIS GOOD, is astonishing.
AFD is the definitive GN'R album, and still my favorite
CD is #2
I don't think there's anything delusional about that. I'm acknowledging the success that AFD made, the cons of CD, and still acknowleding the successes of CD, over the filler-loaded Illusion's, without taking away from a truely masterpiece album in AFD.
But at the same time, people who like UYI2 or UYI1 (never met one of those) as their favorite GN'R album, I don't think they are delusional or delusional thinking.
Re: Slash Basically Blaming Axl
I like my drums a bit louder than they are on cd, but I'm getting used to all the things like that, that bugged me before.
I still think the album could have been mixed better, the outro to Catcher is really bad. Brains going nuts but you have to strain, focusing your ear to get into the drums. Those damn guitars are to loud and are away in a world of their own.
The demo guitars complemented those wonderful lyrics at the end of the song, the new version still doesnt sit right me at all even though I want to love the song so much.
