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- Communist China
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Re: The NFL 2007-08 Season thread
Then the coaching has to be removed. Coughlin's a failure anyways, his tough style has produced a penalty-plagued team that despises him from all I can see.
Re: The NFL 2007-08 Season thread
Yeah, Coughlin should hit the road. They should have changed coaches while Tiki was still there. Get a new coach, see how Eli progresses, and if there's no significant change, look for a different QB.
I think they should look for a new QB anyways. Maybe not waste their best pick on one, but if there happens to be a promising QB in the later rounds of the draft, grab him.
- Gunslinger
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Re: The NFL 2007-08 Season thread
Well tonight will be the second biggest game of the season so far when Green Bay and the Cowboys play. This is easily the biggest game since the Pats and the Colts played but this time only people who have the NFL Network (with the exception of the people who live in Green Bay and Milwaukee per the NFL's "home market over the air" agreement) will get to enjoy it. Total bullshit. The NFL is just a few steps away from becoming Pay Per View.
Re: The NFL 2007-08 Season thread
I have DirecTV, and will definitely be watching this.:mosh: I don't really blame the league for this. They just want cable providers to feature their channel. Its the only leverage the league has. If cable doesn't buckle under this year, expect playoff games to be on the NFL Network next season.
The NFL Network is destined to be one of the top sports channels, so I really don't understand cable's reluctance to add it.
- Gunslinger
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I really wish Cable would add this or I may have to end up switching to Satellite. I just hate the hastle of changing everything. Enjoy the game James...let's hope Green Bay kicks the shit out of Dallas!
- NY Giants82
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Re: The NFL 2007-08 Season thread
Then the coaching has to be removed. Coughlin's a failure anyways, his tough style has produced a penalty-plagued team that despises him from all I can see.
I have heard QBs like Dan Marino and Jim Kelley talk about how difficult it would be to succeed in that system. You could be right.
- NY Giants82
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Re: The NFL 2007-08 Season thread
Yeah I got DirecTV, the only way to go if you can get it. I understand the NFL's point of view, but man are most NFL fans getting dicked out of what should be a great game tonight or what?
BTW, Slinger, what'd I tell you about Kolby Smith? Too bad he couldnt get that first down though...
Re: The NFL 2007-08 Season thread
Celizic: Restricting big game shows NFL's greed
Showdown is must-see, if you're among fortunate few to have NFL Network
OPINION
By Mike Celizic
updated 9:01 p.m. ET, Tues., Nov. 27, 2007
Packers-Cowboys isn't as big as Patriots-Colts, but only in the sense that the PGA Championship isn't the Masters. In other words, it's still a highlight of the season, one of the few games that you'd do just about anything to see.
If your spouse wants to go shopping, you hand her your Visa Plutonium card and tell her to have fun without you. If your kid has a recital at school, you ask if somebody can possibly videotape it so you can watch it later. If you work that night, you call in sick.
It's the kind of game that will be sure to drive office conversation for weeks after, a game that will determine which of two old and honored franchises has the edge on getting to the Super Bowl, a game that pits the hottest young quarterback in the game against a grizzled legend.
It's a game that would set a record for Thursday night football viewership '” if only we were allowed to watch it.
And there's the catch '” a fly the size of Moby Dick in an eight-ounce jar of ointment. The NFL in its infinite greed decided that the game is too big for anything as common as network television '” or even any of the 37 ESPN channels. Instead, it's reserved this game for the sole enjoyment of those lucky enough to have a television service provider that offers the NFL Network.
This is about money and nothing else. The NFL brags that it's the only professional sports league that has always given away all of its games '” there are no regional sports networks owned by teams that you have to be to see every game. And now it just wants to have a few games to sell on its own network, because, as we all know, the game doesn't get enough money out of us as it is.
Paying for tickets and parking and game jerseys and throwback jerseys and all the licensed products we simply must have isn't enough. Digging into our pockets to pay for their new stadiums isn't enough. Paying $20 for two drinks and a hot dog isn't enough, either. Now we've got to pay to watch the games on television.
Of course, the NFL doesn't want us to pay to see Packers-Cowboys and, on the last Saturday of the season, Giants-Patriots. It wants the cable companies to pay for the service and then pass the costs on to us whichever way they wish. That way it's not our fault if we don't get the games. It's the cable companies.
Football fans have their jocks in a knot over this. It's not as if those of us without the necessary cable hook-up have a choice in this. Where I live, I have two choices, keeping the all-in-one telephone/TV/high-speed Internet service I have or ditching it all and paying for a satellite service that offers NFLN and then phone service from someone else and Internet service from yet another provider.
And that's what the NFL wants them to do. The league has even set up a Web site, iwantnflnetwork.com, where it urges outraged NFL fans to blame their cable companies for not allowing them to see the game.
It's a shameless ploy meant to deflect your wrath from its rightful target '” the NFL itself. The league wants you to believe that cable companies are somehow cosmically obliged to carry their channel as part of its basic service, because if they don't, every atom in the universe will explode at three times the speed of light, and we'll never find out who won Dancing with the Stars.
Believe me, I'm willing to blame the cable companies for every evil on the planet, including golfers who take 15 minutes to line up their fourth putt. For most of my adult life, they've had me by my delicate bits and the more cash I throw at them, the tighter their grip gets.
But this one isn't their fault. The NFL wants them to pay for NFLN and give it away free. And they're under no obligation to do that.
So we have the cable industry with their great gobs of money lined up against the NFL with its great gobs, and they're staring each other down to see who blinks first. Neither one of them gives a flying fiddlehead about the fans who just want to see the game. They both know we'll still be there when they get done staring each other down and come to an agreement about how best to shake more money out of the public.
And nothing achieves that mutual goal better than having a game like Packers-Cowboys on a network that millions of fans can't get. The resulting uproar '” I'm still waiting for the Congressional hearings on this one '” forces the issue and makes the paying public all that much more eager to get the channel '” regardless of the cost. It's the fox and the grapes all over again '” we want all the more that which we can't have.
It's shameless, bordering on extortion. And it's all the NFL's fault.
And we'd forgive the greedy so-and-so's tomorrow if only they'd give us the darned game.
© 2007 MSNBC Interactive
Who knew that anything about cable tv would be better in canada 
Re: The NFL 2007-08 Season thread
I'll give a small halftime update to those not able to watch. Dallas leading 27-17, but the big story is Favre going down with some sort of arm/elbow injury. Doesn't seem to be too serious as he was gripping a football and getting his arm massaged, but he is no longer playing and Aaron Rodgers is in.
Its pretty obvious that no matter who ends up winning this game and by how much, Dallas is the superior team. Green Bay's running game is horrific(although they did get a big run for a TD), and Favre basically was just throwing it up praying someone not on the opposing team catches it. This is the first Green Bay game I have watched without flipping through channels this season, and I am not impressed. I am shocked they are 10-1.
Rodgers got them down the field for a TD before the half ended, but they better hope Favre's injury is very minor. Favre was not having a good game, but this team goes nowhere without him.
Yeah, Dallas is for real. GB only stopped one Dallas drive.
